The dangers of Sufism. Sufis come in

[Abdalla]

First find out what salafis stand for and what are there values. People who are arguing yet dont have a clue about anything.
Are you really Shafici? Explain what happens when a man touches his wife normally. No sexual feelings. Does he have wudu or what??

Shaficis believe that it breaks the wudhu

 

[Suldaanka]

They believe what any other modern Sunni sect believes which is the sunnah and Quran like other groups like the Muslim brotherhood for example using Islam for political goals in this case the goals of Saudi Arabia and its influence, while sufism is a more older group from the time of the three blessed generations who also believe in the Quran and sunnah

Where do you get mowliid from then sxb?? Where do you get the whole Saab thing??
Praying thru someone else?
Reading Jaamac Dua after every salat. I come from the Land Of Qadariyaah and Sufis. I was at one time a Timoweyn with legit long ass hair.
All wrong shit

 

[Reer-Bari]

This is what they are
“The Salafi movement, also called Salafist movement, Salafiya, and Salafism, is a reform branch or revivalist movement within Sunni Islam that developed in Egypt in the late 19th century as a response to Western European imperialism”

lol wikipedia. thats where you get your information. why dont you get your infromation from the quran and sunnah or the ulama. instead you would rather read non muslim puplications. ths is who we are arguing with. listen this shouldnt even be an arguement. either your seeking the truth or your not. there is no room for insults.

 

[Suldaanka]

Shaficis believe that it breaks the wudhu

My point was that Tukarq is arguing yet he doesn't even have knowledge.
Do you agree with Shafici. Where is his basis for that ruling?

 

[Misil]

Thats hardcore, I am in whatever madhab says he still has his weeyso

When studying fiqh you'll realise the shafi madhab comes second to the hanbali one in terms of strictness. The hanafi school is the most lenient

 

[Tukraq]

lol wikipedia. thats where you get your information. why dont you get your infromation from the quran and sunnah or the ulama. instead you would rather read non muslim puplications. ths is who we are arguing with. listen this shouldnt even be an arguement. either your seeking the truth or your not. there is no room for insults.

Aren’t you the one who called Maliki a salafi how can he be part of a recently created sect your right this shouldn’t even be an argument

 

[Reer-Bari]

Saying I'm shafici and salafi is oxymoron. Salafis are against madhabs. They follow more of ibn Taymiyyah. @Reer-Bari is ignorant

bring your proof. walahi shafici was following the salaf. your confusing people who claim to be salafi to the real salafi. there are a lot of people claiming salafi who ar not salafi abowe

 

[nine]

Like what? I am talking about Sufis in Somalia?

I was brainwashed into believing that they worship graves and slaughter meat to Sheikh Abdulqadir Jeylani. I spent time with them in Galkayo. All we did was eat mighty feast and recite Quran

You haven't seen Galgaduud. North Galkayo and above is better.

 

[Abdalla]

My point was that Tukarq is arguing yet he doesn't even have knowledge.
Do you agree with Shafici. Where is his basis for that ruling?

Based on this ayah in An-Nisa
أَوْ لَامَسْتُمُ النِّسَاءَ فَلَمْ تَجِدُوا مَاءً فَتَيَمَّمُوا صَعِيدًا طَيِّبًا فَامْسَحُوا بِوُجُوهِكُمْ

'and if you've touched your wives...'

 

[Abdalla]

bring your proof. walahi shafici was following the salaf. your confusing people who claim to be salafi to the real salafi. there are a lot of people claiming salafi who ar not salafi abowe

You dumb baffoon. Nobody said that Shafici is not salaf or he shouldn't be followed.

The salafis are against following a madhab. So saying that you're a salafi and a shafici doesn't make sense. Salafis don't follow any madhab

 

[Abdalla]

@Shaolin23 educate this juhala

 

[Reer-Bari]

You dumb baffoon. Nobody said that Shafici is not salaf or he shouldn't be followed.

The salafis are against following a madhab. So saying that you're a salafi and a shafici doesn't make sense. Salafis don't follow any madhab

lol why the insults. i never claimed im salafi. i just said i dont mid people who do. i am a muslim. and follow the manhaj of shafici. like most somalis. imam shafici followed the salaf. you got brainwashed by the western media into believing this salafi thing.

 

[Abdalla]

i never claimed im salafi.

I make people change their narrative

 

[NFD]

i have never read abdul wahab i follow the school of thaught of imam shafici the salafi imam that all of somalia follow besides a small fring group who are sufi.

This is what happens when you get your opinions from foreigners and believe Islam came to Somalia in 1990 while relegating your ancestors to being grave worshipping savages.

Somali Sufis ARE Sunnis who follow the shafi'i madhab. Sufism is a practice not its own sect.

 

[halwa]

@halwa

I hope you didn't join Abu Khadijah the Jamaican convert's Salafi squadron in Birmingham. I'm coming to join him, heard it is an easy access to a Halima.


Salafis Vs Sufis

Catholics Vs Anglicans

Hindus Vs Sikhs

God has his own major leagues, you can only watch on ESPN.

I’m Muslim Sunni, and you will be one too. Repeat after me: La ilaha illa Allah Muhammad rasul Allah.

 

[Abdurahman_somali]

Saying I'm shafici and salafi is oxymoron. Salafis are against madhabs. They follow more of ibn Taymiyyah. @Reer-Bari is ignorant

Let me correct you here a little bit. The Shafici Madhab consisted of many great scholars who flourished in the medival times, like Imam Dahabi (admired by the whole Umma), Imam Ibnul Hajar Asqalaani (wrote the most important explanation of Sahih Al Bukhair) and Ibn Kathir(wrote one of the greatest Tafsir Books of the Quran). As for Imam Dahabi and Imam Ibnu AlKathir they were both students of Ibn Taymiyah and the other one Imam Ibnu Hajar were a great admirer of Ibn Taymiyah. You can't neglect Ibnu Taymiyyah if you are Shafici, he was a great contributer to the Islam, the greatest Shafici scholars seat on his feet.

However the modern Salafism (the politcal movement) is based on the ideas of Mohammed ibnu Abdilwahab who was not a scholar like Ibnu Taymiyyah was. There is a huge difference.

For example your position on mawlid that you postet before was the position of bnu taymiyyah

 

[Reer-Bari]

This is what happens when you get your opinions from foreigners and believe Islam came to Somalia in 1990 while relegating your ancestors to being grave worshipping savages.

Somali Sufis ARE Sunnis who follow the shafi'i madhab. Sufism is a practice not its own sect.

sufis are not shaficis. lol your nuts they have their own ulama.

 

[Abdalla]

Let me correct you here a little bit. The Shafici Madhab consisted of many great scholars who flourished in the medival times, like Imam Dahabi (admired by the whole Umma), Imam Ibnul Hajar Asqalaani (wrote the most important explanation of Sahih Al Bukhair) and Ibn Kathir(wrote one of the greatest Tafsir Books of the Quran). As for Imam Dahabi and Imam Ibnu AlKathir they were both students of Ibn Taymiyah and the other one Imam Ibnu Hajar were a great admirer of Ibn Taymiyah. You can't neglect Ibnu Taymiyyah if you are Shafici, he was a great contributer to the Islam, the greatest Shafici scholars seat on his feet.

However the modern Salafism (the politcal movement) is based on the ideas of Mohammed ibnu Abdilwahab who was not a scholar like Ibnu Taymiyyah was. There is a huge difference.

For example your position on mawlid that you postet before was the position of bnu taymiyyah

I love ibn Taymiyyah. Not only was he a Sheikh, but he was a great thinker and a refuter of Christianity.

I read many of work. Al-Jawaab Alsaxiix liman badala diinal masiix is a solid classic.

You misunderstood my point. Ibn Taymiyyah was a heavyweight on Aqeedah.

 

[AussieHustler]

I’m Muslim Sunni, and you will be one too. Repeat after me: La ilaha illa Allah Muhammad rasul Allah.

@halwa

Only in-front of Abu Khadijah.

You are the only female in this thread and you can't join the debate as a Muslim without tagging me to it? I've been a Salafi and brainwashed to hate Sufis and others (within the Salafi movement too). See here how they fight.




Millions of videos online of Salafis at war with one another. If following the Koran and Sunnah is what Islam is all about and if it is that simple, then why and what are all these different sects fighting about?

 

[halwa]

@halwa

Only in-front of Abu Khadijah.

You are the only female in this thread and you can't join the debate as a Muslim without tagging me to it? I've been a Salafi and brainwashed to hate Sufis and others (within the Salafi movement too). See here how they fight.




Millions of videos online of Salafis at war with one another. If following the Koran and Sunnah is what Islam is all about and if it is that simple, then why and what are all these different sects fighting about?

I don’t want to be part of their useless arguments on who is right and wrong. Most of them don’t know what they’re talking about. My agenda was to open your eyes.

The religion is very specific and clear when it comes Islam and the true path is Sunni. Why don’t you ask them?


Let’s end this here.