Word of advice (let SL go its seperate way)

[hayran]

You're setting up unrealistic scenario sxb..

realistic or not this is what you have to consider when talking policy. that massive unprotected coastline is one of our biggest weaknesses.

this is why the maritime deal with turkey will prove to be the most consequential bit of foreign policy since 77

 

[RiceMuncher]

What's the purpose of forcing people into a unity they don't want? Give me one rational reason for this?

Russia, Spain, France, Turkey, Iraq, Iran, China, India, Pakistan, The Philippines and 99% of Africa is forcing different ethnicities into a nation. You're talking about the only sub Saharan nation with homogeneous group of people who share everything. What makes you think PL won't declare independence the minute we entertain SL? Or any other qabiil fiefdom for that matter? After that Awadalland or Benadirland from the existing fiefdoms? You open that can of worms there will be no stopping it.

Somalia will overcome this period of humiliation IA. There will be a period of development and peace. Too bad this ignorant generation won't see that.

 

[Aiman12]

we should never let SL go, even if they give us Awdal because there is little to no benefit or gain from giving recognition and Ethiopia will jump on the opportunity to use them for sea access. letting Ethiopia build a navy will be the end of us all

 

[Abdisamad]

we should never let SL go, even if they give us Awdal because there is little to no benefit or gain from giving recognition and Ethiopia will jump on the opportunity to use them for sea access. letting Ethiopia build a navy will be the end of us all

There are hundreds of rebels we could support inside Ethiopia, I'm not worried about Ethiopia's potential navy on SL coast.

 

[Abdisamad]

Russia, Spain, France, Turkey, Iraq, Iran, China, India, Pakistan, The Philippines and 99% of Africa is forcing different ethnicities into a nation. You're talking about the only sub Saharan nation with homogeneous group of people who share everything. What makes you think PL won't declare independence the minute we entertain SL? Or any other qabiil fiefdom for that matter? After that Awadalland or Benadirland from the existing fiefdoms? You open that can of worms there will be no stopping it.

Somalia will overcome this period of humiliation IA. There will be a period of development and peace. Too bad this ignorant generation won't see that.

Basically when people have more to lose than gain from unity then you won't have the given scenario where Somalia disintegrates into qabiil states, regarding PL if they wanted to claim independence they would've done so long time ago.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Russia, Spain, France, Turkey, Iraq, Iran, China, India, Pakistan, The Philippines and 99% of Africa is forcing different ethnicities into a nation. You're talking about the only sub Saharan nation with homogeneous group of people who share everything. What makes you think PL won't declare independence the minute we entertain SL? Or any other qabiil fiefdom for that matter? After that Awadalland or Benadirland from the existing fiefdoms? You open that can of worms there will be no stopping it.

Somalia will overcome this period of humiliation IA. There will be a period of development and peace. Too bad this ignorant generation won't see that.

You guys are deluding yourselves with this clan fiefdom talk. The colonial territories in Africa is the map of Africa, it's only Somaliland and Somalia, there's no other thing going to happen.

This is the plan, this is what we are going to return to, anyone else can declare independence but there's no hope of them achieving it.

 

[RiceMuncher]

You guys are deluding yourselves with this clan fiefdom talk. The colonial territories in Africa is the map of Africa, it's only Somaliland and Somalia, there's no other thing going to happen.

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This is the plan, this is what we are going to return to, anyone else can declare independence but there's no hope of them achieving it.

Broski this is 2025. Fk yo colonial borders.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Broski this is 2025. Fk yo colonial borders.

Lol, which borders have changed? Go find them.

 

[RiceMuncher]

Lol, which borders have changed? Go find them.

Morocco got bigger

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Morocco got bigger

Disputed just like the Somaliland and Somalia border change

 

[RiceMuncher]

Disputed just like the Somaliland and Somalia border change

You know what's not disputed? The border you claim was halved last year. C'mon sxb, this will go on for eternity if I know anything about Somali. Everything will stay disputed until the country unites or we fight a bloody war and destroy ourselves again. That's the life of a somali in this century.

Our people are not mature enough for balkanization as that would only end in more bloody wars of borders and foreigners taking advantage of us again, like the neighborhood dwarfs pushing the chaos. The best deal SL could get is being an autonomous region as it is now minus the power of leasing Somalilands to xabashi.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

You know what's not disputed? The border you claim was halved last year. C'mon sxb, this will go on for eternity if I know anything about Somali. Everything will stay disputed until the country unites or we fight a bloody war and destroy ourselves again. That's the life of a somali in this century.

Our people are not mature enough for balkanization as that would only end in more bloody wars of borders and foreigners taking advantage of us again, like the neighborhood dwarfs pushing the chaos. The best deal SL could get is being an autonomous region as it is now minus the power of leasing Somalilands to xabashi.

Somaliland has maybe 20% of the territory left to claim, that can be done easily.

Somaliland joined a union, if Somaliland in 1960 can join a union, it can leave too. That simple.

Somalia is not mature enough to establish government anywhere in the south so that makes it up to other countries to settle the situation.

I see most of you guys only think about Xamar you don't have any idea about how to run a country, just have simple ideas that are not enough. In the end you may have to come under Kenya or Ethiopia because it's not looking good.

 

[RiceMuncher]

Somaliland has maybe 20% of the territory left to claim, that can be done easily.

Somaliland joined a union, if Somaliland in 1960 can join a union, it can leave too. That simple.

Somalia is not mature enough to establish government anywhere in the south so that makes it up to other countries to settle the situation.

I'm tired, sxb. Whatever will be will be. I wish peace, development and for our people to regain their dignity and for xabashi to fk themselves. Thats all.

 

[Ducaalee]

I suggest we let Somaliland go their seperate way, the rest of Somalia can do fine without SL.. But this comes with a condition which means before Somalia signs any seperation papers we will need to hold a referredum in Awdal, if majority vote to remain unified with Somalia then we can include them as part of Somalia another is issue is the SSC region which the seccesionists claim to have enhirated from the English colony, before Somalia signs any seperation documents the seccesionists need to sign off these regions to Somalia and cancel their ridiculous claim.. Clearly the people of SSC are the keepers of Somali unity and patriots, furthermore given the current condition of the Somali state at the moment it's not possible to have these talks, therfore any agreements between the two parts would have to happen when reaches a stable condition where there's a capable inclusive goverment, where Al shabab has been defeated, the SNA is strong and fully functional and all foreign forces and their influence is minimal , only then can we sit down with the seccesionists and hear out their demand and reach an agreement, until let us continue the stalemate.. I think once Somalia gets back on its feets the seccesionists would realise they'll have more to gain being with Somalia than being a squeezed little poverty ridden one qabiil country.. But now the remaining question is can we get Somalia back on its feets with all the low iq stuff going on in muqdisho and southern Somalia?

Who are you to say Awdal isn't part of Somaliland?? Boorama is the place where Somaliland state institution were founded in and take your garbage post and advice somewhere else with your fake "somalinimo" as you're clearly calling for fitna to occur in our land xaarood doqon

 

[Ducaalee]

No seperation will happen. Not only does Al-Shabab still remain a security threat, the world simply doesn't care to have yet another Somali country that will end up begging for aid.

Colonial borders are for the most part sacred. Only reason South Sudan and Eritrea became recognized was because they were culturally and ethnically different from the country they used to be apart of. The world recognises (rightfully) that Somalilanders are the same ethnicity and culture as the rest of the ethnic Somalis.

Eritrean kebessa aren't culturally or ethnically different Ethiopia or the Abyssinian community at large walanweyno

 

[Dooyo]

I’ve always been for allowing Somaliland to receive its recognition and completely break away from Somalia. As for the disputed regions of Sool Bari and Sanaag Bari, a referendum should be held to determine whether or not they’d like to remain with SL or Somalia.

A safe, stable region on that Gulf of Aden that could become a beneficial ally for many countries. Prime real estate for some military bases, great vantage point to eradicate Houthis from and keep travel through the Gulf of Aden safe in general for shipping, etc. Recognition is inevitable.

 

[Nin123]

I suggest we let Somaliland go their seperate way, the rest of Somalia can do fine without SL.. But this comes with a condition which means before Somalia signs any seperation papers we will need to hold a referredum in Awdal, if majority vote to remain unified with Somalia then we can include them as part of Somalia another is issue is the SSC region which the seccesionists claim to have enhirated from the English colony, before Somalia signs any seperation documents the seccesionists need to sign off these regions to Somalia and cancel their ridiculous claim.. Clearly the people of SSC are the keepers of Somali unity and patriots, furthermore given the current condition of the Somali state at the moment it's not possible to have these talks, therfore any agreements between the two parts would have to happen when reaches a stable condition where there's a capable inclusive goverment, where Al shabab has been defeated, the SNA is strong and fully functional and all foreign forces and their influence is minimal , only then can we sit down with the seccesionists and hear out their demand and reach an agreement, until let us continue the stalemate.. I think once Somalia gets back on its feets the seccesionists would realise they'll have more to gain being with Somalia than being a squeezed little poverty ridden one qabiil country.. But now the remaining question is can we get Somalia back on its feets with all the low iq stuff going on in muqdisho and southern Somalia?

Then why you been crying when musa bixi promised port to Ethiopia for recognition?

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

I'm tired, sxb. Whatever will be will be. I wish peace, development and for our people to regain their dignity and for xabashi to fk themselves. Thats all.

You'll be back anytime you smell an opportunity, but this time you admit it ain't happening.

When LA war kicked off niggas rose from a coma.

 

[repo]

If you mean Isaaq areas, they can do as they please however the Khatumo and Maakhir administrations should decide their own destiny too.

 

[RiceMuncher]

You'll be back anytime you smell an opportunity, but this time you admit it ain't happening.

When LA war kicked off niggas rose from a coma.

I'm not smelling anything broski, no gotcha from me. One Somalia, one deen and one people. Xabashi will never get the somali coast lol.

You got me mixed up with my Puntite cousins, I think. I was one of those calling for peace if you read through that thread, but I did LOL when I heard the phrase "waxbaa baa laheyga duuley". Reer waqooyi are cerfied comedians even in defeat wallahi.