Sidaas baa loo baahanyahay. Somalinimo is a weird Nirvana. It died with YHCS.
Word of advice (let SL go its seperate way)
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If somalinimo dies we all die.. That's a foolish thing to say.
As far as I am concerned, it died with Yaasiin Xaaji Cismaan Sharmarke. It doesn't work in Djbouti city, Hargeysa iyo Xamar.
Ha deeqdo this foolish youngsters.
Most of them can’t even speak SomaliAs far as I am concerned, it died with Yaasiin Xaaji Cismaan Sharmarke. It doesn't work in Djbouti city, Hargeysa iyo Xamar.
Ha deeqdo this foolish youngsters.
War iska dhaafe af-somali, indha-adeeg dhaafsan tan Mudug bey la xadreynayaan.Most of them can’t even speak Somali
They just learned their qabiil when I hit my 30s.
How can ensure any agreements made are kept? The FGS is pretty corrupt. For example HSM just change the constition without consensus and past it through a fake parliment. how can you ensure any deal made is not simple backed out of later?
HSM doesn't own Somalia and in the case of ensuring any agreement made, well the government and the capital would be in the north. Who can negate on an agreement when the power base has shifted?
They could just give stipulations that it needs time to be implemented lets say 5 -10 years and then during that time reverse it or just come up with excuse not to implement it. And all the states wouldn't agree to a new capital anyway similar to the new constitution recently. Also for example in the Somaliland/Somalia talks they agreed on joint airspace control and the FGS went against that and just seized it and now politise it and use it against Somaliland. It's just wishful thinking that FGS has any ability to make and keep agreements with Somaliland.
1. An airspace is the sovereign right of a country's authority to manage. Agreeing to that deal was wrong to begin with imho.
2. If the south reverses its position on a any deal regarding a union, then SL should have the right to cede.
3. Any deal between somalis must have ONE supreme authority in defense and foreign affairs, no more meddling in our affairs.
1. No excuses, why would a sovereign nation give up its authority to a region it claims?
2. Any agreement between the north and the south would have to have conditions and timetables for said conditions.
3. Big bad west that keeps the south from recognising SSC and destabilise Awdal is what will make sure we keep our end of the deal...
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2. Any agreement between the north and the south would have to have conditions and timetables for said conditions.
3. Big bad west that keeps the south from recognising SSC and destabilise Awdal is what will make sure we keep our end of the deal...
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1. No excuses, why would a sovereign nation give up its authority to a region it claims?
2. Any agreement between the north and the south would have to have conditions and timetables for said conditions.
3. Big bad west that keeps the south from recognising SSC and destabilise Awdal is what will make sure we keep our end of the deal...
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Because Somalia is not sovereign and it's wasting resources trying to counter Somaliland. Those resources can be used to help Somalia instead of being used to counter Somaliland. This is the simple argument. It's common sense to agree to disagree.
Somalia needs to bridge the gap to become a sovereign state but it wasted so much resources already trying to stop Somaliland. There will be a time in the future where people will see the past year as a wasted/missed opportunity.
Anyway, it's okay because either way Somalia remains weak and it loses Somaliland to external recognition. There's nothing that can be done by Somalia to maintain the situation.
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My guy Somalia hasn't used an ounce of resources on SL before the MoU as that crossed a line. Before that any claim to secession was SQUASHED when their secession got secessioned by a sub sub sub clan who didn’t agree to with the secessionists dream of secession.
Even then the IC is keeping the FG from destabilising the north, hence why they haven’t recognised SSC as a state. Even though they deal with them directly, just to keep SL on their toes. If need be, we could go that route.
Edit: No, I will not continue the same discussion we've had before. Waan kaa daaley sxb. WARZIO ii daa.
The Mogadishu government doesn't control much territority or perform basic state functions even in the capital. Why is it focusing on Somaliland? Somalia literally has not one dollar or one minute to spare on Somaliland, this is the truth. You want to believe that 30 years of collapsed state you can just come back exactly as before, obviously that's not the case, you got to pay a price and things will be different.
Any state has territorial battles it happens from time to time. Somaliland is going to make it back no problem but you want to think that's a kind of gothca but you know it isn't. If Mogadishu is soveriegn and can dream of Somaliland then why can't Somaliland claim a small part of territory outstanding?
Refer to my edit in the comment above.
Refer to my edit in the comment above.
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lol exactly …you guys crooked by nature. We took a lesson too many times . Just forget about us we aint never coming back. Guul Somaliland.1. No excuses, why would a sovereign nation give up its authority to a region it claims?
2. Any agreement between the north and the south would have to have conditions and timetables for said conditions.
3. Big bad west that keeps the south from recognising SSC and destabilise Awdal is what will make sure we keep our end of the deal...
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