Word of advice (let SL go its seperate way)

Thegoodshepherd

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The existence of an independent Isaaq or Dir Woqoyi Somaliland would be an existential threat for Somalia. It does this in two ways:
  1. It gives clans the idea that clan based secession is possible and can be resorted to.
  2. It reduces Somalia to a state rather than being the nation-state of all Somalis.
What Somalia must do is run out the clock. In 10 to 15 year's time, Isaaq will have <50% of the population of what used to be British Somaliland. If we manage to delay recognition of their secession until that point is crossed, we can then request a referendum that we know northern unionists can win. Secession is not a foregone conclusion, we can help make it fail.
 
If they relinquished their claim to SSC and Awdal, I'd gladly through agree to let them go their way.

But I know very well, they'd prefer to die before accepting that deal.
From your replies I can conclude that you are a somewhat indecisive and unassertive person.

before you agree to let Somaliland go their way ,
You as a SSC- Khaatumo citizen (I'm sure you're from there) ,
Where is your Dhulbahante traditional tribal boundary with Somaliland/Isaaq?

The area in blue is your lost ancestral lands.
Would you relinquish your ancient ancestral lands to them?

If Somaliland can claim Yoocada near Garoowe ,
What is stopping you from reclaiming your former ancestral lands?

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Libaax-Joore

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Let mentally capable somalilanders run Somalia. Like the former finance minister Somali hero Dr. Abdirahman beileh who got us debt relief by winning the trust of international partners with cold hard facts. He did this by working hard to punish any Somali politician that engaged in corruption (Hassan fired him, because as you can probably guess, someone who is kryptonite to corruption doesn’t mix well with…. Y’know). Not ready to let them go out of love. An exchange for SSC & awdal leaves something to be desired when some of the greatest Somalis are issaq.

His secession now
 
No, they cant even go their seperate way their apart of somalia and only reason their able to do things is the incompetency going on in the somali government. Theres a reason why their supported by ethiopia, Their somalis and they will be apart of a greater somali state.
whats is their incompetency exactly? The fgs is pretty limited, it doesn't fund or protect itself.
 
You know what's not disputed? The border you claim was halved last year. C'mon sxb, this will go on for eternity if I know anything about Somali. Everything will stay disputed until the country unites or we fight a bloody war and destroy ourselves again. That's the life of a somali in this century.

Our people are not mature enough for balkanization as that would only end in more bloody wars of borders and foreigners taking advantage of us again, like the neighborhood dwarfs pushing the chaos. The best deal SL could get is being an autonomous region as it is now minus the power of leasing Somalilands to xabashi.
Somaliland is already autonmous. What other deal would you offer Somaliland to join Somalia?
 
Somaliland is already autonmous. What other deal would you offer Somaliland to join Somalia?
I would revise the Union and make the changes SL wishes for other than secession. Capital and president? Ok for me and for most who likes to see a united developing Somalia.
 
I'm tired of their nagging sxb.. I genuinely think Somalia wouldn't lose anything with their exit lol.
So your patriotism is limited to what annoys you and what they bring to the table? How are you different to any of us who think konfuria brings nothing but chaos, crime and terrorism? Should we let them go as well?
 
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