Yaab! 30 year old Farax wants advice from xalimos on how to tell wife #1 he wants a second wife.

[Awad]

Shouldn't have told liberal r/Somalia.

Glad I'm not the only that noticed, people on there love acting cadaan asf

 

[Hamzza]

I love how Muslim men act like they've not been told to lower their gaze and not spend time around non-mahrem women. Instead he opened his eyes wide enough for his cousin to 'catch' his lustful gaze. He will end up divorced with a wife in Somalia and he'll have to provide for 2 households now. Soon he will cry hot tears as his ex-wife moves on and gets a new husband. His children will grow up to resent him etc.

A tale as old as time, men who cannot control their lust destroy their own lives and they deserve it.

Muslim men don't need to lower their gaze and it's ok for them to spend precious time with non-mahram women. And you @𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒 go to Somalia or any other Muslim country then criticize them, so long as you are in the west you have no right to condemn what other Muslims are doing.

Allah سبحانه وتعالى said in the Quran

وإن خفتم ألا تقسطوا في اليتامى فانكحوا ما طاب لكم من النساء مثنى وثلاث ورباع فإن خفتم ألا تعدلوا فواحدة أو ما ملكت أيمانكم
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This miskiin guy was not obligated in the first place to ask permission from his wife to marry a second wife, yet you are bashing him for planning to do this innocent gesture.

 

[jemappelle]

You can have whatever in heaven. Best bet I'm having a harem of men. Niggas really think women have restrictions in heaven. I'll be on a new dick everyday

Also the 72 virgins Hadith aint sahih

It ain't restrictions its just you won't desire multiple men in jannah anyway, you only want to be a slore in this life. but in the next you won't

 

[jemappelle]

Muslim men don't need to lower their gaze and it's ok for them to spend precious time with non-mahram women.

WHo said?

 

[Hamzza]

AAAAWHo said?

I'm trolling. No one said that. She was using arguments like this when she was seconding Ilhan Omar for promoting LGBT abortion etc.

>She has no problem using the Deen to support her arguments in the gender war threads.

>yet, when a person criticizes Ilhan Omar for transgression and promoting degeneracy, she responds "you are not allowed to use the Deen because you live in a Gaalo country".

I was exposing her hypocrisy.

 

[Abdisamad]

All of you hating on halal polygamous marriages have been programmed to hate it because it an Islamic tradition.. Meanwhile in the west who programmed you to hate and detest halal polygamous marriages are introducing this to you

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[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Muslim men don't need to lower their gaze and it's ok for them to spend precious time with non-mahram women. And you @𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒 go to Somalia or any other Muslim country then criticize them, so long as you are in the west you have no right to condemn what other Muslims are doing.

Allah سبحانه وتعالى said in the Quran

وإن خفتم ألا تقسطوا في اليتامى فانكحوا ما طاب لكم من النساء مثنى وثلاث ورباع فإن خفتم ألا تعدلوا فواحدة أو ما ملكت أيمانكم
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This miskiin guy was not obligated in the first place to ask permission from his wife to marry a second wife, yet you are bashing him for planning to do this innocent gesture.

LOOOOL

Muslim men don't need to lower their gaze? I see you are still lying with no shame whatsoever. You lie about your clan so I am not surprised you are lying about Islam.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

All of you hating on halal polygamous marriages have been programmed to hate it because it an Islamic tradition.. Meanwhile in the west who programmed you to hate and detest halal polygamous marriages are introducing this to you

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Again. Did I say polygamy is evil or that men who lie to their wives are evil? Why can't polygamous men announce their polygamous nature from day 1???

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

You can have whatever in heaven. Best bet I'm having a harem of men. Niggas really think women have restrictions in heaven. I'll be on a new dick everyday

Also the 72 virgins Hadith aint sahih

They are delusional walahi.
They think women are a monolith of robots programmed to serve one man. If only they knew a lot of women would leave their man if they did not have children or financial and social issues forcing her to stay. In heaven? I bet a lot of women never want to see the male gender again not even as friends. Or they'll do what they want like you said.

 

[Angelina]

All of you hating on halal polygamous marriages have been programmed to hate it because it an Islamic tradition..

No, it’s because Somali men go back home leaving their children fatherless and the vast majority cannot fully support looking after two women in the same location.

Conscious dissonance is an issue in here. So we dislike single parent households, yet you’ll champion practices that contribute to it.

I don’t hate polygamy as I cannot make the halal haram, but there is no denying that this practice of going back for a second wife does violate the rights of wife and children due to issues of time and location.

Secondly, it’s a juvinile argument employed by men to claim women have been programmed by their West to not want to be in polygamous marriages. Any man who says that doesn’t understand the nature of women. We are naturally jealous and territorial. Go back a hundred years, five hundred years and you’ll find that women have always wanted their husbands to themselves. So quit silly arguments about the whole Western programming comments employed by these Dawah men in the 2000s. I’ve always found that argument to be not the smartest.

Meanwhile in the west who programmed you to hate and detest halal polygamous marriages are introducing this to you

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[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Oh he doesn’t love his wife, that’s why he wants another blah blah blah.

Im sorry is he a nin or a naag?

A man has the capacity to care for multiple women, other wise Allah would not allow polygamy.

A naag on the other hand can truly care, for only one man. Even if she shares a life with many, stop confusing women for men.

But I will say this, a lot of men are cowards and liars. They tell women they’re courting one thing, and do another later on and in secret like this coward. I don’t support that!!

This is the main issue. Polygamy has been bastardised by cowards. If poly men were upfront and also good at it, a lot of people would not care. But the fact is most poly men do it wrong and hide their wives and treat them and the new kids like dirty secrets. In addition, many of them cannot afford even one family but they want to spread their 5 cents among multiple households.

 

[Hamzza]

LOOOOL

Muslim men don't need to lower their gaze? I see you are still lying with no shame whatsoever. You lie about your clan so I am not surprised you are lying about Islam.

Make Hijrah first, then we will take your criticism of Muslim men seriously. You are such a shameless individual wallahi. I see you are trying to deflect but that will not work with me.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

You’re acting like that’s a bad thing. Sure it’s not ideal but there’s nothing wrong with a man who wants to have a second wife because he finds her sexually attractive. Even though he’s supposed to be lowering his gaze, if he wants to marry her to taste her honey, there’s nothing wrong with that and he isn’t doing anything sinful.

LOOL

This is why I find you "religious" men on this forum dubious. How come you are not writing 5 paragraphs about how people should lower their gaze??

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Make Hijrah first, then we will take your criticism of Muslim men seriously. You are such a shameless individual wallahi. I see you are trying to deflect but that will not work with me.

I am shameless? I am not the one denying my father. Orad wax isku fal, mardambe ha ila halidan duliyahow qurmay.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

No, it’s because Somali men go back home leaving their children fatherless and the vast majority cannot fully support looking after two women in the same location.

Conscious dissonance is an issue in here. So we dislike single parent households, yet you’ll champion practices that contribute to it.

I don’t hate polygamy as I cannot make the halal haram, but there is no denying that this practice of going back for a second wife does violate the rights of wife and children due to issues of time and location.

Secondly, it’s a juvinile argument employed by men to claim women have been programmed by their West to not want to be in polygamous marriages. Any man who says that doesn’t understand the nature of women. We are naturally jealous and territorial. Go back a hundred years, five hundred years and you’ll find that women have always wanted their husbands to themselves. So quit silly arguments about the whole Western programming comments employed by these Dawah men in the 2000s. I’ve always found that argument to be not the smartest.

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How many times have we said the same thing on this forum? Either they have issues with reading comprehension or they are being deliberately obtuse to get a rise out of us.

 

[Hamzza]

I am shameless? I am not the one denying my father. Orad wax isku fal, mardambe ha ila halidan duliyahow qurmay.

I see you are still not capable of having a rational argument, all you do in this forum is project your mental illness onto other people. I hope administrators do something about this.

I'm not a lunatic. Macsalaama

 

[reer]

This is the main issue. Polygamy has been bastardised by cowards. If poly men were upfront and also good at it, a lot of people would not care. But the fact is most poly men do it wrong and hide their wives and treat them and the new kids like dirty secrets. In addition, many of them cannot afford even one family but they want to spread their 5 cents among multiple households.

gulf arabs who are polygamous usually have alot of money. faraxs who get a 250 dollar raise will get a 2nd wife. lol.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I see you are still not capable of having a rational argument, all you do in this forum is project your mental illness onto other people. I hope administrators do something about this.

I'm not a lunatic. Macsalaama

Alhamdulilah I am not mentally ill. But the fact that you think you can use mental illness as an insult or that you are somehow exempt from ever getting a mental illness, shows how debased you are. You think mentally ill people go to the shop and buy it? You are truly awful.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

gulf arabs who are polygamous usually have alot of money. faraxs who get a 250 dollar raise will get a 2nd wife. lol.

I promise you, if most poly men were rich and good at it, more women would be down for that lifestyle.
A lot of women don't want to see their husband everyday either, as long as he looks after his kids. Plus getting all the bills handled with extra spending money? Sounds like heaven.

 

[Angelina]

Muslim men don't need to lower their gaze and it's ok for them to spend precious time with non-mahram women. And you @𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒 go to Somalia or any other Muslim country then criticize them, so long as you are in the west you have no right to condemn what other Muslims are doing.

Allah سبحانه وتعالى said in the Quran

وإن خفتم ألا تقسطوا في اليتامى فانكحوا ما طاب لكم من النساء مثنى وثلاث ورباع فإن خفتم ألا تعدلوا فواحدة أو ما ملكت أيمانكم
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This miskiin guy was not obligated in the first place to ask permission from his wife to marry a second wife, yet you are bashing him for planning to do this innocent gesture.

I know your trolling.

This is where hikma and common sense goes out the window. Informing your wife is literally decent manners and anyone who refuses do do so shows their lack of respect and such a person can easily fall into lying.

Using fiqh without consideration of your partner to govern marriages is where in which your marriage goes down the drain. Imagine, a woman in Islam doesn’t have to cook and clean, even if she’s a housewife. She can watch her husband come back home from a long and tiring day and just watch him hungry from her coach.

When you use fiqh like that, this is the can of worms you open up. Also, classical scholars also say:

Furthermore, having a wife back home does cause issues with the regards to the rights of the wife and kids because of location and time and this is a concern scholars have touched upon:

To sum up: it is permissible for you to take a second wife if your first wife agrees to you being away from her for a long time and she waives her rights to time with you during this period. But if she does not agree, then you do not have the right to go ahead with this marriage because you are not able to treat both wives fairly and justly.

https://islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/144122

The reason no one thinks about the issue of location and the rights of the wife is because Many Somali men think marrying more than one is an inherent right like provision for example and not a privilege for those that have the time and money. The fact that the first thing you did is find a fatwa about how men don’t need to inform their wives instead of taking into consideration how a man with two women in different continents could possibly treat them equal is the biggest issue we have with men and polygamy. They simply don’t care about women’s haqq or even their kids upbringing for that matter.