In addition to Aayah 3, look at aayah 129 of an-Nisaa.
Yaab! 30 year old Farax wants advice from xalimos on how to tell wife #1 he wants a second wife.
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Completely unrelated to the constantly recycled subject being discussed, but I could not help noticing that you referenced the Egyptian Hanafi Ibn Human whose greatest work is a commentary on the Hanafi Fiqh compiled by Burhan, the same Classical scholar which was referenced by IslamWeb in relation to forced copulation with one's wife.
The most Landheer Emarati is a naturalised Gaajo Baloochi from a modest armed forces background who sired almost 100 children; he was also one-legged since 1995 but could still hump Masha Allah.
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He also has 50 grandchildren. Another marriage is on the cards in two weeks for the proud father, who says 100 children are within reach...
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That is why you find in the Shafi and Hanbali school of thought, they believe that monogamy is better. Polygamy can cause men to easily fall into sin.
More scholarly view:
And Ibn Khatib said:
The Hanafis believe it is Sunnah to not marry again, if it will cause issues with your wife:
The Shafis:
Al-Shafi’i, may Allah have mercy on him, said:
The vast majority of scholars believe that monogamy is the Sunnah apart from some Salafi scholars. Even amongst Salafi scholars, like Ibn Uthaymeen, he believed that monogamy is better.
I don’t know why we have this new modern age obsession with targeting sisters for thinking monogamy is better and preferring monogamy when even the vast majority of scholars believed that monogamy is indeed better.
My dugsi always taught be that polygamy is the Sunnah and better. Oh was I shocked when I started to read fiqh and come across the majority view.
Was it Ibn Human that made the forced intimacy comment?Completely unrelated to the constantly recycled subject being discussed, but I could not help noticing that you referenced the Egyptian Hanafi Ibn Human whose greatest work is a commentary on the Hanafi Fiqh compiled by Burhan, the same Classical scholar which was referenced by IslamWeb in relation to forced copulation with one's wife.
I don’t even know why I got so annoyed at you that day. Guess what?
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The most Landheer Emarati is a naturalised Gaajo Baloochi from a modest armed forces background who sired almost 100 children; he was also one-legged since 1995 but could still hump Masha Allah.
'Super Daad' wants to score a century
He also has 50 grandchildren. Another marriage is on the cards in two weeks for the proud father, who says 100 children are within reach...www.khaleejtimes.com
Father of 96 mourns loss of second son
Superdad yet to reach 100-children targetwww.emirates247.com
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Monogamy is not Sunnah as 'Sunnah' is following the path of the Prophet SAWS semantically speaking. To marry more than one wife is following Sunnah but this does not mean one can ignore responsibilities that come with it. Moreover, in Hanbali Fiqh it is Sunnah to marry more than one if one can afford to do it etc. As a Salafi, I am sure you would defer to your seniors at IslamQa etc.
The prophet was both monogamous and polygamous. You’re forgetting that. Why would only polygamy be a Sunnah then? Also, how are you to say monogamy isn’t Sunnah when nearly all of the madhabs believe monogamy is indeed Sunnah and believe that polygamy whilst being the actions of the Prophet can cause normal Muslim men into falling into sin very easily
Islamqa and Salafis are the minority here and even some of their great scholars believe one is better.
Nope the vast majority if not all believe it is the sunnah to only marry one. It is the Salafis who say otherwise and even within them, Sheikh Uthaymeen believed it is better to marry one.
Nope, Islamqa is mostly Salafi. A pure Hanbali website is:
Marrying two three or four women
Explore the diverse views of the Hanafi, Shafii, Maliki, and Hanbali schools of thought on polygamy in Islam. This article delves into scholarly opinions regarding whether its preferable to have one wife or multiple. Many jurists argue that marrying more than one woman is permissible but often...
www.islamweb.net
They make it very clear that the default position for most scholars in the majority of the madhab is the opposite of what you’re saying.
Anonimo if you properly read my post I made it clear that only Salafis believe it is Sunnah to marry more than one. Even amongst Salafis, Shiekh Uthaymeen believed marrying one is better. I’m not denying that Islamqa believe the opposite, hence why I originally wrote that.
That is why you’ll find only Islamqa and other Salafis will tell you it is Sunnah and I mentioned that.
All the madhabs including some Salafis scholars believing marrying one is better.
Read Islamweb and it breaks it down and even mentions monogamy being a Sunnah and shows the view of Shiekh Uthaymeen.
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Burhan was Ibn Humana's senior in Fiqh, he wrote a commentary on his work.
Having one Somali wife is already a hell-ish existence and never ending domestic battles, why would you willingly subject yourself to even more madax xanuun?
I find it strange for you tell me that Hanbalis don’t think it’s Sunnah to be monogamous, when literally the vast majority of their classical scholars believed that. It isn’t even a debate. Look here, he used the word ‘Sunnah’.
Imam Bahuti a Hanbali scholar literally says it’s Sunnah.
Then you have the famous ibn Qudaamah:
Al-Haawi]
Furthermore, Ibn Qudaamah from the Hanbali School of jurisprudence, said in Ash-Sharh Al-Kabeer: “It is more appropriate to marry only one wife. The author of Al-Muharrar
Islamqa might derive a lot of their fifrom the Hanbali school of though, but they don't follow pure Hanbali fiqh. That is well known.
But even within Salafis, Uthaymeen argues:
Ibn Qudaamah]
Finally, Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen said: “It is safer to restrict oneself to only one wife. However, if one sees that one wife is not enough for him and he cannot maintain his chastity by having only one wife, then we enjoin him to marry a second, a third, or a fourth, until he feels comfortable, lowers his gaze, and enjoys peace of mind.” [Excerpt from Ash-Sharh Al-Mumti’]
Literally when you look at Madhabs the vast majority thought that it was merely permissible like Islamweb illustrates and majority of the major scholars from each madhab say the exact same thing:
Many jurists have stated that marrying more than one wife is just permissible, while some of them are of the view that it is better to have only one wife unless there is a need for polygyny,
Even Shafis use the word Sunnah as well:
Al-Shirbini writes:
He specifically uses the word ‘Sunnah’ as well. Much like the Hanbali scholars.
Marrying two three or four women
Explore the diverse views of the Hanafi, Shafii, Maliki, and Hanbali schools of thought on polygamy in Islam. This article delves into scholarly opinions regarding whether its preferable to have one wife or multiple. Many jurists argue that marrying more than one woman is permissible but often...
www.islamweb.net
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Having multiple wives is less madax xanuun than having one. Here's why: humans are very jealous and territorial creatures, including women, so when you add a second wife into the equation, 9 out of 10 times they will compete or fight for the "favorite wife position," which equals less madax xanuun since the wife who is always fighting and yelling at her husband is obviously going to be less favorable than the one who isn't so she will think twice before she tries to do so essentially, they behave better when there is competition. (Source my adeer I'm not joking)Having one Somali wife is already a hell-ish existence and never ending domestic battles, why would you willingly subject yourself to even more madax xanuun?
Your adeer is really teaching you toxic ways. Precisely, why any sane women will think long and hard about being a second wife. Who wants to compete for their spouse’s affection? Does that mean she will have to suppress any “negative” emotions so he doesn’t like the other one more than her? This just seems cruel.Having multiple wives is less madax xanuun than having one. Here's why: humans are very jealous and territorial creatures, including women, so when you add a second wife into the equation, 9 out of 10 times they will compete or fight for the "favorite wife position," which equals less madax xanuun since the wife who is always fighting and yelling at her husband is obviously going to be less favorable than the one who isn't so she will think twice before she tries to do so essentially, they behave better when there is competition. (Source my adeer I'm not joking)
The Prophet SAWS was a polygamist. If he had remained monogamous then this would disqualify polygamy from being Sunnah hence my semantic argument that monogamy is not strictly Sunnah, and to not highlight this is an inaccurate reflection of the Prophet SAWS Sunnah. From your own IslamWeb Source:The prophet was born monogamous and polygamous. You’re forgetting that. Why would only polygamy be a Sunnah then?
Nope the vast majority if not all believe it is the sunnah to only marry one.
Nope, Islamqa is mostly Salafi. A pure Hanbali website is:
Marrying two three or four women
Explore the diverse views of the Hanafi, Shafii, Maliki, and Hanbali schools of thought on polygamy in Islam. This article delves into scholarly opinions regarding whether its preferable to have one wife or multiple. Many jurists argue that marrying more than one woman is permissible but often...
Anonimo if you properly read my post I made it clear that only Salafis believe it is Sunnah to marry more than one. Even amongst Salafis, Shiekh Uthaymeen believed marrying one is better.
That is why you’ll find only Islamqa and other Salafis will tell you it is Sunnah and I mentioned that.
All the madhabs including some Salafis scholars believing marrying one is better.
Read Islamweb and it breaks it down and even mentions monogamy being a Sunnah.
Shafici scholar Ibn Dawood
It can be argued you are jumping the gun by arguing 'that the majority of scholars state that it is Sunnah to marry only one as there is a difference of opinion as clearly stated in your link. Hanafis for example don't all sing from the same hymn sheet regarding this:
Hanafi
Regarding Salafis, they are the main Sunni group today who are associated with Hanbali Fiqh, you know this very well hence why I referenced them. Even Uthaymeen stated it is better to marry more than one to maintain chastity in the IslamWeb reference you gave hence it is not a clear cut case of him saying it is Sunnah to only marry one as he never states so.
Let's post a question on IslamQa to find out what classical Hanbali Fiqh they base their Fatwa on?
Not necessarily, as he remained monogamous the whole time whilst being with Khadijah and only after she passed away was he polygamous. Therefore as Muslims, we’re shown to different types of marriages.
Yes, but his view is a minority one within Shafi. Even Imaam Shafi was if the view that monogamy is preferable and many such as Imam Nawawi ect.
Even Islamweb says most believed that polygamy is merely permissible and if you read the fatwa it talks about the majority view:
Many jurists have stated that marrying more than one wife is just permissible, while some of them are of the view that it is better to have only one wife unless there is a need for polygyny.
No, not true. Salafis are known for their ijtihad and their not so strict following of Madhab. For you to suggest that they are known for the Hanbali school of thought shows your limited understanding of Salafiyah.
Salafis do not make strict taqlid of Madhabs. That is well known. Rookie mistake walal.
Islamqa is known to believe that they follow what they deem as the strongest opinion. It’s mostly influenced by Hanbali yes, but they deviate.They do not make strict taqlid of madhabs. This is well known.
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Polygamy is about greed, lust, charity or politics depending on the man involved. It's not about love,
Because if they don't their wife will divorce them
Opposite way round, you will have4x more headache, women are already a headache to begin with, adding another wife onto that makes it 4x worse. you are eventually going to commit suicideHaving multiple wives is less madax xanuun than having one. Here's why: humans are very jealous and territorial creatures, including women, so when you add a second wife into the equation, 9 out of 10 times they will compete or fight for the "favorite wife position," which equals less madax xanuun since the wife who is always fighting and yelling at her husband is obviously going to be less favorable than the one who isn't so she will think twice before she tries to do so essentially, they behave better when there is competition. (Source my adeer I'm not joking)
only exception is if you marry a good women who doesn't mind about polygyny
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It clearly states that there is a difference of opinion with some just stating it is permissible whilst others advising to marry only one wife. Thus, it is misleading to argue that there is a majority for marrying 'only one wife' as you claimed when none has been mentioned.
Moreover, in your previous posts you did not even reference a Maliki scholar yet you made bold, unsubstantiated claims that a 'majority' view hold the stance you made. That is half baked walaal.
I never said Salafis were strict in following a Madhab but they are more closely associated Hanbali Fiqh than the other four hence my statement regarding their association with it when referencing IslamQa.
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First of all you have to understand, sunnah in terms of fiqh, can be equated to mustahabb, meaning, it is preferred to do it, for most scholars, it is not preffered to marry multiple wives, because it is a great respinsibility and can cause a man to be unjust if he is not the top tier of men.
Sunnah in regards to normal Islamic terminology, like the science of seerah, refers to anything the Prophet Sallallahu alayhi wasalam did, was going to do, or commanded us to do,
Also polygyny, the enactment of it depends on peoples situation. If you live in a society where women outnumber men, and the men have the ability to support them, then it may become prefereable for polygyny to be common and it serves the common interest of women much more.
If you live in a society where there are less men avaiable for marriage than women this may also apply
but in general most men should avoid it especially if there is no need, most men don't need another wife nor would they be able to deal with another one.
But the few men who can deal with multiple wives have the permisibility to marry them if they want.
I don't understand what you guys are debating here.
First of all you have to understand, sunnah in terms of fiqh, can be equated to mustahabb, meaning, it is preferred to do it, for most scholars, it is not preffered to marry multiple wives, because it is a great respinsibility and can cause a man to be unjust if he is not the top tier of men.
Sunnah in regards to normal Islamic terminology, like the science of seerah, refers to anything the Prophet Sallallahu alayhi wasalam did, was going to do, or commanded us to do,
Also polygyny, the enactment of it depends on peoples situation. If you live in a society where women outnumber men, and the men have the ability to support them, then it may become prefereable for polygyny to be common and it serves the common interest of women much more.
If you live in a society where there are less men avaiable for marriage than women this may also apply
but in general most men should avoid it especially if there is no need, most men don't need another wife nor would they be able to deal with another one.
But the few men who can deal with multiple wives have the permisibility to marry them if they want.
I don't understand what you guys are debating here.
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