A beautiful Catholic church in Mogadishu

[Abdisamad]

With all due respect walaal,I found happiness in christianity.

This is actually hilarious.. Weren't you stuck in Somaliland or something?

 

[AMusee]

The people that are judging you right now is reason why Somalia is not a safe place for religious minorities.

She has the right to convert to any religion she wants. As long as she’s not causing any harm or influencing people the wrong way she’s free to believe.

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“Right” according to who? In Islam you do not have the right to publicly apostize and our law is Islam not liberal rights.

besides, I doubt calmone is Somali or ever was Muslim, her post history consists of trolling Somalis. Also coming up with strange stories of abuse.

She’s probably Ethiopian tbh.

 

[CALMONE20###]

“Right” according to who? In Islam you do not have the right to publicly apostize and our law is Islam not liberal rights.

besides, I doubt calmone is Somali or ever was Muslim, her post history consists of trolling Somalis. Also coming up with strange stories of abuse.

She’s probably Ethiopian tbh.

I'm somali lmao

 

[AMusee]

read this article

My Views On the Punishment For Apostasy

This article is a brief overview of my position on the punishment for apostasy within Islam. Over the years, I have discussed it very few times, whether in video or on social media platforms. The r…

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youre arguing against something that is clear cut in Islam and is a consensus.

Posting liberal revisionism is not convincing anyone, nice try though.

 

[AMusee]

Italian architecture looks nice. Somalis should have taken the good bits from them & added it into the native architecture. Like the Roman pillars for instance.

The old colonial church needs to be converted into a Masjid.

 

[cooli3o]

youre arguing against something that is clear cut in Islam and is a consensus.

Posting liberal revisionism is not convincing anyone, nice try though.

you have no english comprehension skills if you didn't understand anything I just said, if you are not willing to have an intellectual discourse please do not reply to my comments

 

[cooli3o]

@cooli3o I didn't read your last two posts and I don't have time to keep going back and forth with you. The three days thing goes back directly to Umar ibn Al Khattab. The hukm on apostasy is very well-known and behond dispute. The sharia is applicable in all times and places. I don't think there is any scholar who backs your views.

Im not disputing the hukm on apostasy I am disputing the implementation of it in the modern age

 

[DubatDiaries]

besides, I doubt calmone is Somali or ever was Muslim, her post history consists of trolling Somalis. Also coming up with strange stories of abuse.

She’s probably Ethiopian tbh.

the Ethiopian accusations won’t work this time, waa gabadh Somaaliyeed who’s been struggling with her mental health. Can confirm

 

[AMusee]

Im not disputing the hukm on apostasy I am disputing the implementation of it in the modern age

Implemenation of the law does not change. Their is no distinction between “modern, medieval, ancient” that’s liberalism.

In Islam the implantation still stands, as long as there is a shariah court to rule on it.

 

[cooli3o]

Implemenation of the law does not change. Their is no distinction between “modern, medieval, ancient” that’s liberalism.

In Islam the implantation still stands, as long as there is a shariah court to rule on it.

Implementation only happens when conditions are met. that is a fact. All I am saying is the conditions are not met in most countries now therefore it cannot be implemented

 

[Hamzza]

Implementation only happens when conditions are met. that is a fact. All I am saying is the conditions are not met in most countries now therefore it cannot be implemented

Let's assume a person in Yemen or Saudi Arabia publicly announced his apostasy, what are the conditions preventing the state from executing that Apostate as per the Sunnah?

 

[cooli3o]

Let's assume a person in Yemen or Saudi Arabia publicly announced his apostasy, what are the conditions preventing the state from executing that Apostate as per the Sunnah?

I don't live in saudi or yemen so I don't know the conditions of its people, plus the implications of the apostasy are not the same as they were back in the day, as the article I mentioned above, apostasy in the past, was seen as a direct war against the state, since they lived in imperial countries, this causes numerous harms to the country and warrants a death penalty, the state of modern day countries is nothing like it was in the past

 

[Sueeeeeee]

What a beautiful church

 

[Hamzza]

there are different types of things we follow in the deen, something which is linked to an ijtihaad by the sahaba is something which is not counted as a ruling,

How can you say that when the prophet ﷺ ordered us to imitate the Sheykhayn Abu Bakar and Umar radiyalahu anhumaa.

قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: اقتدوا باللذين من بعدي : أبي بكر وعمر

Ibn Hazm explaining this hadith said: the prophet ordered us to imitate and follow the example of the Sheykhayn because he was sure they will never diverge from his Sunnah.

The Ijtihad of Umar and Abubakar is Deen.

 

[Ismacilssc]

Thank you brother for your kind words,but I have found peace in Jesus Christ and the Blessed Mother. God bless you.

Astaqfurlah

 

[Al hashimi]

I think you guys should read Mohammed hijab's book on ridda

 

[Hamzza]

I don't live in saudi or yemen so I don't know the conditions of its people, plus the implications of the apostasy are not the same as they were back in the day, as the article I mentioned above, apostasy in the past, was seen as a direct war against the state, since they lived in imperial countries, this causes numerous harms to the country and warrants a death penalty, the state of modern day countries is nothing like it was in the past

Yes, you don't live in Yemen or Saudi Arabia but everyone who follows the news and doesn't live in a cave has general idea about how the situation in these countries are.

No such implications are mentioned, have you ever opened a fiqh book? We were ordered to execute the murtad... the hikmah behind this ruling? we don't know only we can speculate. But the orders have to be fulfilled. سمعنا واطعنا

Female apostates are to be executed according to the 4 madhabs. Now I ask you what threat is a lone woman posing to the state? This clearly disproves your claim of apostates in the past being executed solely because they posed a threat to the state.

 

[whitehartlane]

I have seen men identify as woman and woman identify as something we can’t comprehend - therefore I have given up trying to understand silly attention seeking moments of morons..

 

[cooli3o]

Female apostates are to be executed according to the 4 madhabs. Now I ask you what threat is a lone woman posing to the state? This clearly disproves your claim of apostates in the past being executed solely because they posed a threat to the state.

you do not realise women also pose a danger to the state, they can act as spies and reveal information, both female and male munaafiqs destroy the Islamic society, the murtads in those times create division amognst Muslims and start war, look at Islam history, every time these new sects of munaafiqs came out there was always war waged agaisnt them, why? because they destroy the Muslim community, the same thing does not happen to dhimmis or other non Muslims, the people who leave Islam have essentially waged war against the state, and will destroy the Muslim society

 

[Omar del Sur]

Yes, you don't live in Yemen or Saudi Arabia but everyone who follows the news and doesn't live in a cave has general idea about how the situation in these countries are.

No such implications are mentioned, have you ever opened a fiqh book? We were ordered to execute the murtad... the hikmah behind this ruling? we don't know only we can speculate. But the orders have to be fulfilled. سمعنا واطعنا

Female apostates are to be executed according to the 4 madhabs. Now I ask you what threat is a lone woman posing to the state? This clearly disproves your claim of apostates in the past being executed solely because they posed a threat to the state.

coolio is just making stuff up. the so-called "martyrs of Cordoba" were executed in Al-Andalus because they apostasized. they weren't waging a war against the state, they were simply executed for apostasy.