A New military base will be opened to Somalia

[TSP]

Agreed or they will look for ictiraaf very soon to

They are working behind the scenes to sabbotage this President I can feel it

Not if faroole has a say. He told gaas to leave farmaajo alone

 

[Qansax]

If Somalia plunges into another civil war between the states i am officially done with that country I'll die here in the West

I predicted houthis will come to Somalia. I also predicted that they will take over puntland and somaliland.

Right now my theory is coming together because Puntland is opening the qatar base and Somaliland is opening the UAE one

Qatar and UAE are both enemies of houthis and they'll use bosaso and berbera to attack their strongholds in the south

And on top of that the western funded project (shabaab) failed and nationalists are back in power. They need a proxy war now

And Iran is mad that Somalia got rid of them. They built ties with Somalia in the first place to build a base in Somalia in retaliation to the base in djibouti and they'll probably cooperate with the west starting with destabalizing Puntland and Somaliland

 

[Steamdevolopment]

We never had the same amount of foreign interference Angola did and we are on pace to eclipse their civil war duration

Forreign intervention is easy to deal with but when there is deep seated internal disputes is diffuclt look at the columbia vs Farc history.

We basically pretend to be a people when in reality we are 200 different tribes hating each-other and holding grudge. That is the truth

 

[Canuck]

If Somalia plunges into another civil war between the states i am officially done with that country I'll die here in the West

Why will we go to civil as states? We will develop our country and work with central government in taxation and defence.

 

[Bahal]

The things had changed since the rise of Iran and destroyed of 5 Arabic countries with their armies. They are desperate with surrounding of Iran to them. Lebanon, Syria north are controlled by Iran. Same iraq, Yemen. And if Somalia falls to Iran influence, they will lose bab al mandab to Iran where 75% of world trade goes through it.

What on earth do we gain from not only being used as pawns by foreign states, but also by those same states undermining our sovereignty by cutting deals with regional governments without the knowledge or approval of the central government?

 

[MadNomad]

Why do you think I'm looking for scandinavian men? I need to give my children a head-start so they can blend in their new home

Brilliant idea Maybe i should look for a Swedish wife just in case

 

[Steamdevolopment]

Why will we go to civil as states? We will develop our country and work with central government in taxation and defence.

Because they are forces like Farmaajo who want a more centralized government to avoid wasting resources on more battery on federal states and they are those who want almost full autonomy to such a degree they can conduct their own forreign policy. Those two forces can lead to a civil war.

 

[Steamdevolopment]

Not if faroole has a say. He told gaas to leave farmaajo alone

Farole power seems to waining not gaining and his an elderly too so he won't be there for long

 

[MadNomad]

Why will we go to civil as states? We will develop our country and work with central government in taxation and defence.

Sxb, there's already tensions. Federalism will eventually lead to conflict if allowed to continue.

 

[TSP]

Farole power seems to waining not gaining and his an elderly too so he won't be there for long

damn darkest timeline for farmaajo

 

[Canuck]

What on earth do we gain from not only being used as pawns by foreign states, but also by those same states undermining our sovereignty by cutting deals with regional governments without the knowledge or approval of the central government?

Can you plz be positive for moment? The world is changing around us and let's take our chances, Somalia was about of annexation of land (off shore oil to Kenya) and Ethiopian prime minister talking on Somali TV about joining Somalia to his country. We reached the bottom of barrel and it is time to throw these habashi and Bantu out of Somalia. We have common interest with Arab and unfortunate if they had to go to region administration instead of central administration (rivalry and ego between leaders )

 

[Bahal]

Can you plz be positive for moment? The world is changing around us and let's take our chances, Somalia was about of annexation of land (off shore oil to Kenya) and Ethiopian prime minister talking on Somali TV about joining Somalia to his country. We reached the bottom of barrel and it is time to throw these habashi and Bantu out of Somalia. We have common interest with Arab and unfortunate if they had to go to region administration instead of central administration (rivalry and ego between leaders )

I have no interest in replacing Xabashi overlords with Arab overlords.

If they are already using the same divide and rule tactics, what is the difference?

 

[Canuck]

Sxb, there's already tensions. Federalism will eventually lead to conflict if allowed to continue.

The leaders have to sacrifice their egos and find common ground which is here the poor Somalis(famine, poverty, rape by Amisom and killing by Ethiopian forces) our people deserve better life.

 

[Canuck]

I have no interest in replacing Xabashi overlords with Arab overlords.

If they are already using the same divide and rule tactics, what is the difference?

Arab are temporarily thing, they are not interested in occupation us, just mutal interest and business like Djibouti.

 

[MadNomad]

The leaders have to sacrifice their egos and find common ground which is here the poor Somalis(famine, poverty, rape by Amisom and killing by Ethiopian forces) our people deserve better life.

The leaders only care about themselves and holding on to power (With the exception of Farmajo of course )

 

[Bahal]

Arab are temporarily thing, they are not interested in occupation us, just mutal interest and business like Djibouti.

Why would they be temporary?

They are right next door and see a country and a people that are ripe for the picking, for sale at the right price.

Somalia must be free at all cost.

 

[Canuck]

Why would they be temporary?

They are right next door and see a country and a people that are ripe for the picking, for sale at the right price.

Somalia must be free at all cost.

We had Russian base in the past and we asked them to leave Somalia in 2 days, also we had before American base. They helped us in building our army and armed us that Somali army became number 4 strongest army in Africa. We don't have alternative we need big brother to help us. British are protecting Kenya, morocco, Tunisia France, Egypt USA and gulf countries. Guys be realistic. Look at Syria bashar could not fall because Iran is protecting him.

 

[Bahal]

We had Russian base in the past and we asked them to leave Somalia in 2 days, also we had before American base. They helped us in building our army and armed us that Somali army became number 4 strongest army in Africa. We don't have alternative we need big brother to help us. British are protecting Kenya, morocco, Tunisia France, Egypt USA and gulf countries. Guys be realistic. Look at Syria bashar could not fall because Iran is protecting him.

You cannot compare superpowers with obvious objectives to insidious second rate Bedouins who have a track record of destabilizing our country by funding religious extremists and now pitting regional states against their own government.

No other country in the world would tolerate an affront to their sovereignty of this magnitude. It is one thing to open up a base to establish an alliance, and another to literally ignore our sovereignty and make deals with regional governments.

We are either an independent sovereign state, or a colony.

 

[Abdalla]

Stop injecting Farmaajo into every discussion. Puntland has to react to SL's militarization of the region. Did you really think they would watch its rivals do a military build up and do nothing?

 

[Canuck]

You cannot compare superpowers with obvious objectives to insidious second rate Bedouins who have a track record of destabilizing our country by funding religious extremists and now pitting regional states against their own government.

No other country in the world would tolerate an affront to their sovereignty of this magnitude. It is one thing to open up a base to establish an alliance, and another to literally ignore our sovereignty and make deals with regional governments.

We are either an independent sovereign state, or a colony.

We don't have any other choices plus, they Took permission from HSM according to our general auditor's word.