Colonial historians' war on Somali History

[Angelina]

I don't think you are even a xalimo. It seems like you are farax masquerading as a xalimo. Your talking points almost sound identical to the farax Incel community.

What a time to be alive. I’m being called a male incel. I’m literally one of the most hated female poster on this forum as I put these Faraxs in there place and have a no nonsense attitude. I’m honest. I come for Faraxs and I also come for people like you.

The way you counter historical and intellectual arguments is similar in tone to the Somali Incel community.

That’s my issue with you. You don’t showcase any intellectual argument. Hardly any of your arguments were historically factual as you didn’t provide any evidence and none of your points were sited. You used a banadir text that is well known to be in inaccurate due to its fantastical nature filled with myths and an article from a Slovakian woman who isn’t even a historian. Are you being for real?

I constantly see you overly praising Somali men and acting like there's nothing wrong with them. You only very seldom criticize Somali men and then you immediately follow up your criticism by overly complimenting them.

The fact that I’m well known on this forum for coming for Somali men whilst you’re saying I ‘seldom’ criticize them is a stark example of your dishonest nature. Everyone on this forum knows I criticize aspects of Somali culture that I feel is misogynistic and I come for sexist Somali men all the time on this forum. To deny this shows how much of a liar you are and it’s funny. It really is.

I even exposed your ridiculous lies about the Ajuran Sultante. I swear your refutation is literally the same as Somali Incels. You are a strange guy. Once again discrediting people's roots and labeling them as an Ethiopian larper. Wallahi you can't be a women.

Everyone knows the Ajuran are Somali. Why you’d lie is clearly due to your hatred for Somalis. You’re not a woman or Somali for that matter and you’d even lie and say I never criticize Somali men when I’m constantly accused of doing so. That alone should illustrate that you can’t be believed. lol I’m Angelina, the woman who puts these Faraxs in their place. THE Angelina.

 

[HabarSteven12]

What a time to be alive. I’m being called a male incel. I’m literally one of the most hated female poster on this forum as I put these Faraxs in there place and have a no nonsense attitude. I’m honest. I come for Faraxs and I also come for people like you.

That’s my issue with you. You don’t showcase any intellectual argument. Hardly any of your arguments were historically factual as you didn’t provide any evidence and none of your points were sited. You used a banadir text that is well known to be in inaccurate due to its fantastical nature filled with myths and an article from a Slovakian woman who isn’t even a historian. Are you being for real?

The fact that I’m well known on this forum for coming for Somali men whilst you’re saying I ‘seldom’ criticize them is a stark example of your dishonest nature. Everyone on this forum knows I criticize aspects of Somali culture that I feel is misogynistic and I come for sexist Somali men all the time on this forum. To deny this shows how much of a liar you are and it’s funny. It really is.

Everyone knows the Ajuran are Somali. Why you’d lie is clearly due to your hatred for Somalis. You’re not a woman or Somali for that matter and you’d even lie and say I never criticize Somali men when I’m constantly accused of doing so. That alone should illustrate that you can’t be believed. lol I’m Angelina, the woman who puts these Faraxs in their place. THE Angelina.

Your definitely a farax Incel. Literally the exact same talking points.

 

[Emir of Zayla]

Your definitely a farax Incel. Literally the exact same talking points.

There’s no talking to you. You genuinely have negative IQ

 

[Bari🐍]

@Bari🐍 "The old trading-posts at Guardafui, formerly under Arab control, were now free, through the quarrels of their overlords, and their markets were open to who might seek. And then a Roman subject, perhaps in the Abyssinian service, was driven to sea and carried in an open
boat to India, whence he returned in a few months with a favorable wind and much information."(THE PERIPLUS OF THE ERYTHR^AN SEA TRAVEL AND TRADE IN THE INDIAN OCEAN BY A MERCHANT OF THE FIRST CENTURY TRANSLATED FROM THE GREEK BY
WILFRED H. SCHOFF). Somali nationalist Incels: Those Arabs were ethnic Somalis at the time. We wuz Arabs and sheet.

 

[Somali_patriotic]

Your definitely a farax Incel. Literally the exact same talking points.

Nga got intellectually humiliated

 

[Angelina]

Your definitely a farax Incel. Literally the exact same talking points.

I’m actually finding this genuinely funny. Guys im a sexist Farah. I’m enjoying this.

 

[HabarSteven12]

What a time to be alive. I’m being called a male incel. I’m literally one of the most hated female poster on this forum as I put these Faraxs in there place and have a no nonsense attitude. I’m honest. I come for Faraxs and I also come for people like you.

That’s my issue with you. You don’t showcase any intellectual argument. Hardly any of your arguments were historically factual as you didn’t provide any evidence and none of your points were sited. You used a banadir text that is well known to be in inaccurate due to its fantastical nature filled with myths and an article from a Slovakian woman who isn’t even a historian. Are you being for real?

The fact that I’m well known on this forum for coming for Somali men whilst you’re saying I ‘seldom’ criticize them is a stark example of your dishonest nature. Everyone on this forum knows I criticize aspects of Somali culture that I feel is misogynistic and I come for sexist Somali men all the time on this forum. To deny this shows how much of a liar you are and it’s funny. It really is.

Everyone knows the Ajuran are Somali. Why you’d lie is clearly due to your hatred for Somalis. You’re not a woman or Somali for that matter and you’d even lie and say I never criticize Somali men when I’m constantly accused of doing so. That alone should illustrate that you can’t be believed. lol I’m Angelina, the woman who puts these Faraxs in their place. THE Angelina.

I want you to swear by Allah that you are a Somali woman. Say, "May Allah curse me if I am lying about being a Somali woman." If you do than I will further engage with you by reposting my academic sources. Say ilahaay baan ku dhaartaye gabar Somali baan ahay.

 

[Bari🐍]

I want you to swear by Allah that you are a Somali woman. Say, "May Allah curse me if I am lying about being a Somali woman." If you do than I will further engage with you by reposting my academic sources. Say ilahaay baan ku dhaartaye gabar Somali baan ahay.

There's a lot of academic sources I think you'd find interesting here

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[Fobnimo Till I Dhimo]

I love how that's the only thing you addressed. For example, in the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea, a Greek sailor and merchant writing in the 1st century CE, the author mentions the Kingdom of Axum as a place of trade and commerce and notes its control over the Red Sea, describing it as "an immense and powerful nation."

In the 6th century CE, the Byzantine historian Procopius also mentions the Kingdom of Axum, describing it as a "great and mighty kingdom". Yes Aksum was so barbaric and uncivilized like Somali nomads.

You asked me to provide you with evidence of trade with the Romans, and when evidence is presented that you can't easily refute, you shift the discussion to other topics that weren't being addressed. That's all you do on every topic, switch topics when you're getting beaten, then go on the offensive with another false piece of information you think can't be disproven. And then the same thing happens you get schooled and respond with new topics.


What an odd character you are.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Habarsteven believes Blond Arabs founded Mogadishu and Somalis only became the majority after the 20th century through Italian colonial policies.
this same person mocking Somalis for believing Mogadishu was ruled by Somalis and calling us hoteps.

 

[Khaem]

Habarsteven believes Blond Arabs founded Mogadishu and Somalis only became the majority after the 20th century through Italian colonial policies.
this same person mocking Somalis for believing Mogadishu was ruled by Somalis and calling us hoteps.

The original Somalis before the evil Cushites came to the Somali peninsula

 

[Bari🐍]

The problem with her theory of the northern coastal cities being ruled for 2000 years is there's no genetic evidence. There should be a lot of J haplogroup people. Where are their descendants? They should have been a sizeable group over 2k years.

 

[Khaem]

The problem with her theory of the northern coastal cities being ruled for 2000 years is there's no genetic evidence. There should be a lot of J haplogroup people. Where are their descendants? They should have been a sizeable group over 2k years.

There's no genetic evidence. No archeological evidence. Nothing but secondary sources from a random page from some Arab guy that never visited east Africa.
Somalis ruled the peninsular, before that, Proto somali Tribes who were east Cushitic speaking and eventuality mixed together to form the Modern Somali ethnicity.

 

[Bari🐍]

There's no genetic evidence. No archeological evidence. Nothing but secondary sources from a random page from some Arab guy that never visited east Africa.
Somalis ruled the peninsular, before that, Proto somali Tribes who were east Cushitic speaking and eventuality mixed together to form the Modern Somali ethnicity.

I think the Arabs disappeared, we have to find out how. I'm assuming Somalis then found empty cities with boats and ports that they took over.

 

[Odious Delirium]

What a time to be alive. I’m being called a male incel. I’m literally one of the most hated female poster on this forum

Not anymore there are many new sspoters xalimos that lap you in terms of hate they get here haabar being one of them

 

[HabarSteven12]

Historial proof kulaha here's some more
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Not a single historical source or proof what's so ever lol. You don't even understand what your argument entails. Your source says "One route led down to the East African coast from Ethiopia to Somalia." Once again, there is no mention of any ancient Somali kingdom trading with the Romans. The source was literally describing the geographical area that the Romans traded with. Somalia didn't exist until 1960.

The video you presented literally says Far-Side ports were relatively uncivilized. There were no cities or indigenous communities. The natives lived in self-governing tribal kingdoms lol. You literally debunked yourself. You still didn't show me any source that states that ancient Somalis traded with the Romans. You just provide numerous articles and videos that show no concrete proof

 

[HabarSteven12]

I think the Arabs disappeared, we have to find out how. I'm assuming Somalis then found empty cities with boats and ports that they took over.

We wuz Arabs and sheet.
The arab:

 

[Fobnimo Till I Dhimo]

Not a single historical source or proof what's so ever lol. You don't even understand what your argument entails. Your source says "One route led down to the East African coast from Ethiopia to Somalia." Once again, there is no mention of any ancient Somali kingdom trading with the Romans. The source was literally describing the geographical area that the Romans traded with. Somalia didn't exist until 1960.

The video you presented literally says Far-Side ports were relatively uncivilized. There were no cities or indigenous kingdoms. The natives lived in self-governing tribal kingdoms lol. You literally debunked yourself. You still didn't show me any source that states that ancient Somalis traded with the Romans. You just provide numerous articles and videos that show no concrete proof

 

[HabarSteven12]

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The Romans spoke about a lot of ancient kingdoms and civilizations they traded with. They spoke and gave a thorough description of Aksum, Persia, India and the Greeks. No mention of any ancient Somali kingdom they traded with. Just name one. You literally debunked yourself .

 

[Somali_patriotic]

Not a single historical source or proof what's so ever lol. You don't even understand what your argument entails. Your source says "One route led down to the East African coast from Ethiopia to Somalia." Once again, there is no mention of any ancient Somali kingdom trading with the Romans. The source was literally describing the geographical area that the Romans traded with. Somalia didn't exist until 1960.

The video you presented literally says Far-Side ports were relatively uncivilized. There were no cities or indigenous kingdoms. The natives lived in self-governing tribal kingdoms lol. You literally debunked yourself. You still didn't show me any source that states that ancient Somalis traded with the Romans. You just provide numerous articles and videos that show no concrete proof

Bro... no matter how much of evidences we give you'll twist it to fit your narrative
"Muh not true it arab and shieet"