Expect the unexpected with the horn of jahanam
Early reports of a large contingent of mechanized Ethiopian forces spotted crossing over from Ferfer DDS into Matabaan
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Nothing to talk about when it's simple
Ethiopia wants to use Somali ports
Ethiopia wants to share border with the sea
Ethiopia wants to have a trade agreement
Ethiopia wants to have a naval base
"We dream of the sea to yawmil qayama". Then go off on your cousin's where you had a sea border and f off.
Submissive tone from the president for troops to just enter his country like that. Why is he so against building up our military forces beyond a measly 10-20k when Ethiopia has 600’000?
You can’t deny though they’ve been taking action, let’s not keep our heads buried shall we?
Hilmaam
VIP
Somaliland knows how to deal with Oromos. This disaster of a deal they better get way more cages ready More oromos getting deported from Hargeisa
www.somalispot.com
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AS isn’t nationalist
Don’t portray them as such bro
-Ethiopia hasn’t closed its fake embassies in Hargeisa and Garowe
-Abiy hasn't rescinded the MOU and promised to respect our country's sovereignty
-non atmis Ethiopian troops have entered different regions in the thousands.
and our president is talking about wanting peace in east Africa and wishing one day that all ports can connect to each other one day. “Iskuma haysano anaga iyo itiobiya bada”
-Abiy hasn't rescinded the MOU and promised to respect our country's sovereignty
-non atmis Ethiopian troops have entered different regions in the thousands.
and our president is talking about wanting peace in east Africa and wishing one day that all ports can connect to each other one day. “Iskuma haysano anaga iyo itiobiya bada”
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Hilmaam
VIP
We broke can barely pay troops we have. If we had funds would be easy to have big army as most of youth and men unemployed 200 dollars a month they gonna jump at that. Only chance is volunteer army which ain’t happening. No one will die for another’s land right now. We busy fighting each other to worry about somaliland leasing ocean.
No matter who is president nothing they can do other than apply international pressure. Somalia not beating Ethiopia in war HSM hands are tied. I say let somaliland do as they please they won’t get any real recognition. They day somaliland gets recognition is day Somalia splits into 5 or more pieces permanently which no one is interested in
Wasn’t the intention for the SNA to be 18k troops and for the collective FMS forces to be 18k? Realistically SNA should be at least double but even if we had the funds to pay all those soldiers we wouldn’t be able to. Not enough accountability structures in place to prevent the funds from being pilfered as they are now.
Hilmaam
VIP
Per NDP 9. The goal is Somali national army to be 18,000 troops. And then each FMS to have 3,000 specialized troops each which is another 18k. Then the goal is to have 32k state and federal police officers who will patrol, solve crime, address disputes and deal with citizens . Military will deal with foreign adversaries and ensuring borders protected
What is the goal of Turkey in this
You have the budgets available on your thread, however I’ll have to heavily disagree with you on the matter. The funds unaccounted for number enough to pay the salaries of our youth, each flight taken from the PM & pres is expensive with a majority surpassing the 100’000$ mark. Stolen money which raised suspicion from the world bank itself along with what they don’t know about, and without doubt, that money could have been used elsewhere. It still may not be enough, but conscription and reducing salary to 100 to allow a higher amount of soldiers would provide a viable means of defence.
Undervaluing the threat to our sovereignty is not an accurate measurement of the situation. Another country doing this anywhere else would be treated appropriately, so I’d appreciate if we all reduced the disengenuos tactics of providing appeasement to the situation.
succeeding will show the world that we blow smoke. From this point on (if they succeed)Taiwan is unrecognized by China but by the rest of the world. The separatists with how broke they are already managed to have their passport accepted elsewhere.
Bro shabab are without doubt an extremist but at the moment they are the only somali entity who have ability to stand against Ethiopia and kenya. The islamist in somalia are the only reason why Ethiopia and kenya have not annexed South SomaliaAS isn’t nationalist
Hilmaam
VIP
Somalia has no sovereignty how many years did Kenya control kismayo port and till this day they are in jubbaland. Dubai has 30 year leases. Turkey was given land and ocean concessions. Everything for sale. somaliland not doing anything out of ordinary selling out. They basically cutting out HSM as middlemanYou have the budgets available on your thread, however I’ll have to heavily disagree with you on the matter. The funds unaccounted for number enough to pay the salaries of our youth, each flight taken from the PM & pres is expensive with a majority surpassing the 100’000$ mark. Stolen money which raised suspicion from the world bank itself along with what they don’t know about, and without doubt, that money could have been used elsewhere. It still may not be enough, but conscription and reducing salary to 100 to allow a higher amount of soldiers would provide a viable means of defence.
Undervaluing the threat to our sovereignty is not an accurate measurement of the situation. Another country doing this anywhere else would be treated appropriately, so I’d appreciate if we all reduced the disengenuos tactics of providing appeasement to the situation.
Taiwan is unrecognized by China but by the rest of the world. The separatists with how broke they are already managed to have their passport accepted elsewhere.
Somalilnd and Taiwan not comparable Taiwan one of the richest countries in the world. Somaliland poor and can’t exist without western aid. One of the main reason they want independence is direct access to aid. This is what them and fgs mainly clash about
With regards to security this was budget for 2023. This also includes many administrative functions of these branches doesn’t leave much for fighting force
Why I’m not concerned is I don’t believe Ethiopia has power to form new country. HSM can sign document tomorrow with ONLF and say its own country. Same thing with other rebel movements like FANO but it won’t be mean anything
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Even if you doubled SNA troops to 36k, salary expenditures annually would be 86 million. Accounting for salary differences among ranks we can round up to 100 million. Sad state of affairs that we cannot raise even this much for salaries, let alone the other expenditures associated with a standing army.
This is nothing new, they have been closing the border from Gedo, Koonfur Galbeed, Hiiraan and now they reached north east Hiiraan.
Its only a good thing because Cayr cross border banditry will be culled.
Its only a good thing because Cayr cross border banditry will be culled.
Has the MOU even moved an inch since the announcement?
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