Isaaq genocide narrative

[Idilinaa]

Ethiopia makes sense its a 100 million plus pop engulfed in ethnic war inshallah it continues

Ethiopia's GDP is 167 billion with a poverty rate of 44-68% , Kenyas GDP is 107 billion with a poverty rate of 36-63%

They were in similar situation before the war, before the civil war in Ethiopia they were experiencing economic growth but it continued to widen the wealth gap

Puntla

Please don't tag him I don't want a yap session on my posts warya, as for the funding part it does since PL is a part of the FGS they're allocated a part of the budget whereas SL isnt.

Puntland hardly gets anything from FGS, it's revenue mostly comes from taxation.

@Zak12

This is a better break down. What i highlighted above was for the FGS , it looks like Puntland doesn't take any foreign grants or aid based on this graph. It also don't get much domestic grants which is portion of FGS revenue allocated to regional states. It's revenue mostly come from taxing trade and other services.

Now it's not so surprising to me why it's the better functioning state out of the bunch.

Article of it's improved development

Puntland Progress: A Model for Stability and Democracy in Somalia

Garowe, PUNTLAND - Today, the Puntland government concludes its three-day ministerial retreat, aimed at reviewing the progress and challenges of

thesomalidigest.com

It gives more evidence for the fact that foreign aid money makes a government corruption worse and empowers illegitimate political office holders. What it ultimately does is weaken domestic accountability and undermines sovereignty.

This makes Puntland all the more a perfect base candidate for a civic movement to launch out from

What i told you about before:

 

[TheLand]

@peterpeter Are you from SL?

 

[peterpeter]

@peterpeter Are you from SL?

from my hooyos side yh but my abo is from jigjiga but fully Somali, but I'm civil I only hope for Somalis to improve

 

[Idilinaa]

from my hooyos side yh but my abo is from jigjiga but fully Somali, but I'm civil I only hope for Somalis to improve

InshaAllah our people will one day prosper, after we put things back into proper order and put the past behind us.

 

[DR OSMAN]

False, FGS does not provide budgetary support to PL lol

This already long time established, you can see it in the nation, its nothing new bro, I saw more ppl begging me for money and khat were hawiye and isaaq while in Addis. They don't have a strong middle class, it's 100 ppl who have wealth and then just drops to million peasant, their no middle range there.

Shacab dhisan ma aha we got our rich and far richer then anything hags or isaaq have. But we also got a strong middle base which is where they lack. Over all shacab dhisan ma aha definitely not in the areas that count the middle range.

 

[Dooyo]

Are you sure you're interpreting this graph correctly no offence but what it says is the poverty levels of Mogadishu and the IDP settlements is highest in the country relative to the other regions they're not as you say "comparable", as for the wealth gap argument yes Mogadishu has more money in its circulation and higher access to resources (but its the capital with most funding this makes sense) the only region which is better off than Somaliland as a whole here is the NE(Puntland region) which also has access to higher levels of funding than NW urban areas.

That’s from a World Bank poverty report in 2017. The one from 2019 states that Kismayo has the lowest level of poverty. Kismayo has the highest reports of hunger, but lowest food poverty incidence.

I don’t know if that’s supposed to mean reer Kismayo are a fat greedy bunch?

 

[Nin123]

Ummm this is not a response from a mentally well person

Walhy am telling you my truth

 

[Idilinaa]

That’s from a World Bank poverty report in 2017. The one from 2019 states that Kismayo has the lowest level of poverty. Kismayo has the highest reports of hunger, but lowest food poverty incidence.

I don’t know if that’s supposed to mean reer Kismayo are a fat greedy bunch?

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Interesting. This is also shows stats from 2017-2018 as it says at the bottom of the graphs . Can you find one from post 2020?

Wasn't Kismayo Alshabaab run territority until late? Baidao and Mogadishu i can kinda understand because of how parts of it's being besieged and cut off by Alshabaab with daily attacks.

 

[Idilinaa]

Kismayo has the highest reports of hunger, but lowest food poverty incidence.

I don’t know if that’s supposed to mean reer Kismayo are a fat greedy bunch?

Could it be that Alshabaab was stealing a lot of the food production and rations from the local populous.

Is Kismaayo under Jubbaland admin or Alshabaab. I believe @Hilmaam would know more and how do you explain the low poverty rates and more food?

 

[Dooyo]

Interesting. This is also shows stats from 2017-2018 as it says at the bottom of the graphs . Can you find one from post 2020?

Wasn't Kismayo Alshabaab run territority until late? Baidao and Mogadishu i can kinda understand because of how parts of it's being besieged and cut off by Alshabaab with daily attacks.

The 2019 report used stats from a survey started in Dec 2017 and end somewhere in 2018. The 2017 report used stats collected Feb and March of 2016. I haven’t been able to find a report later than 2019.

I wouldn’t be surprised if whoever had control at the time was stealing UN rations and/or the people’s produce.

 

[Hilmaam]

Could it be that Alshabaab was stealing a lot of the food production and rations from the local populous.

Is Kismaayo under Jubbaland admin or Alshabaab. I believe @Hilmaam would know more and how do you explain the low poverty rates and more food?

Kismayo is under jubbaland but alot of jubbaland is still under al shabab. them and SWS probably states with least amount of land under their control. the bad thing is like you alluded to that area is breadbasket of somalia. All the farmers have to deal with many check points (isbaaro) by al shabab and govt soldiers and each time have to pay. They are suffering from all sides. Its very bad and shows why our food production is in such terrible form

Jubbaland has the largest number of isbaaros out of any state in Somalia.

BROKERING TRADE ROUTES – Rift Valley Institute

riftvalley.net

Here is also agriculutre production post I did. Our population booming but look at food production before civil war to now

Somalia Agricultural Production

Data is from FAO website and can be found here. Sharing data due to mango fiasco and to show somalia doesn't produce anywhere near enough to feed country. We import because of this. World food program report I saw from 2011 estimated 60% of food in somalia is imported...

www.somalispot.com