Isaaq genocide narrative

[Cartan Boos]

Isaaq are not only important we are very well organized enough to take down Darood with Russian/US backing. Imagine losing from that position. Must be hard to cope.

Now the rest is coming by force too.

4/3 vs 8 birth rate, who's gonna go extinct tolow, yall need to put the khat down and breed sxb

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

4/3 vs 8 birth rate, who's gonna go extinct tolow, yall need to put the khat down and breed sxb

Waxaas iska illow, nabad baad ku jirteen

 

[Khaem]

All the low iq niggas decided to hold a tribal meeting without me

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[Grimmer]

AUN to all of the northerners who have died during that tragic time. But it’s kind of selfish for them to think they are the only ones who suffered. Why don’t I ever see RX talk about the genocide(if that is even the right word) that happen to them. Everyone took an L let’s be honest here. Some had it worse and some had it a little easy. We gotta forget about the past and move on. Every country has a dark time in its history and majority of them try to forget it ever happened. Why can’t we do the same?

 

[peterpeter]

It was between 50k-200k so lets assume hypothetically its 100k the Somali population back in 88 was 7.8 million, over 1 percent of the population got genocided, people in here deny what happened in Hargeisa and expect Landers to just shrug it off to the side and wonder why they want to secede, fear Allah please.

 

[DR OSMAN]

No serious researcher considers it a genocide.

It was a run of the mill suppression of a Rebellion in an African autocracy, no more and no less.

True sxb I've noticed lots of ssdf and snm play this game of genocide accusations at siyad horta maxad xabada uu ridden, that's war now not genocide. Who they represented was a clan greviance while siyad was defending the whole nation. He didn't touch anyone not active combatants or their helpers they are terrorists. Abi Ahmed did the same to tigray and amhara u don't see anyone saying he committed genocide.

These idiots want inay xabada riddan iyo marki loo jawaabo say genocide. Even the 91 so called genocide is extremely exagerrated as most fled, some things happened but not the scale they present it.

The 4 month war was the greatest tragedy in all somali conflicts in term of severity and scale.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

It was between 50k-200k so lets assume hypothetically its 100k the Somali population back in 88 was 7.8 million, over 1 percent of the population got genocided, people in here deny what happened in Hargeisa and expect Landers to just shrug it off to the side and wonder why they want to secede, fear Allah please.

Sometimes I feel sorry for Somalians then I read comments like these and think good riddance I'm glad your country is never coming back, we will be fine regardless.

 

[Farahslayer]

The genocide obviously started at a later point than those events, if they are even true.

Genocide has no time limit and doesnt' need the permssion of a certain number of people.That's just your own invention

We are talking about laws and international law. There are steps and criteria to genocide it isn’t just killing a large amount of people.

Genocide requires propaganda and implicit permission of the population to kill, starve and maim the victimized population. In Somalia the Isaaq people wouldn’t fall anywhere near that. If anything the people declared .5 would have a greater right to argue this.

These are according to the UN, which is the body that declares genocide.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

We are talking about laws and international law. There are steps and criteria to genocide it isn’t just killing a large amount of people.

Genocide requires propaganda and implicit permission of the population to kill, starve and maim the victimized population. In Somalia the Isaaq people wouldn’t fall anywhere near that. If anything the people declared .5 would have a greater right to argue this.

These are according to the UN, which is the body that declares genocide.

There's not. But anyway the point is Somalians don't want to believe it. And that's okay it's your country and you dont' want to believe it committed genocide that's fine, not my business.

 

[Farahslayer]

Its a foreign proxy government and SNM, SDF, UNC, SPM are foreign proxy groups , first understand what a ''proxy' means.

What Are Proxy Militias?

Proxy militias, often understood as going extinct after the Cold War, are alive and well, getting their funding from government sponsors.

spheresofinfluence.ca

It's a government run by a foreign actors and propped up by them.

I cannot believe people are arguing with you that any of these militias aren’t foreign proxies. They’re all English acronyms, literally every single militia is an English acronym. There was a whole wikileaks about three of the post ‘93 militias being paid by the USA.

Every single leader of the USC, SNM and SSDF has flat out admitted that they plotted and formed in ETHIOPIA.

It’s like Somalis refuse to admit facts even if they’re as clear as day.

No the Somali National Movement is not a grassroots rebellion lmfao.

 

[Zak12]

I cannot believe people are arguing with you

At this point its clear they must be suffering from some form of cognitive dissonance. Telling the truth shatters the narrative they have built up and believed in for years so its understandable they will resort to insults and non-arguments. @Yazi also did much of the same and now he is nowhere to be seen now after getting exposed.

 

[Zak12]

Also there is nothing to deny about SNM being an ethiopian proxy

IIRC, there are literal CIA documents showing that Ethiopia always had plans to use the north to destablize Somalia.

 

[Arabsiyawi]

IIRC, there are literal CIA documents showing that Ethiopia always had plans to use the north to destablize Somalia.

Inshallah SL will destabilize Somalia even further

 

[Idilinaa]

Inshallah SL will destabilize Somalia even further

You do realize that destabilization also include SL, which will just make Somaliland war zone and have multiple people fight eachother there.

So you are wishing for your own peoples destruction. Waa Caaqli Xuumo

 

[Burqad]

1 dead Muslim Somali is too much

 

[Idilinaa]

IIRC, there are literal CIA documents showing that Ethiopia always had plans to use the north to destablize Somalia.

Its not only CIA documents even, its also Ethiopian Ministry archive and record.

 

[Arabsiyawi]

You do realize that destabilization also include SL, which will just make Somaliland war zone and have multiple people fight eachother there.

So you are wishing for your own peoples destruction. Waa Caaqli Xuumo

I could care less. The Somali people are an inherently failed people. I’m glad my people have been doing a bit better for some time now. Just my opinion. To each their own

 

[Idilinaa]

I could care less. The Somali people are an inherently failed people. I’m glad my people have been doing a bit better for some time now. Just my opinion. To each their own

How are ''your people'' doing better if the Somali people are inherently failed people?
Somaliland is one of the poorest regions in the world for more than 30 years after and has not achieved anything meaningful.

Also i disagree if foreign proxies destroyed the country and foreign political actors lead the helm, its not Somali people that failed. The international community failed the Somali people.

Simple as that.

 

[Arabsiyawi]

How are ''your people'' doing better if the Somali people are inherently failed people?

Funny you assume I’m only talking about SL.
Miracles happen i guess. They ce had it good despite poverty. But I don’t think it’s going to last for long. They’re still zoos
Your last comment is pure delusion. Somalis need to get humbled in order to prosper. Only a Somali people that is self conscious and aware of its shortcoming can go forward. وخير ان شاء الله

 

[Idilinaa]

Funny you assume I’m only talking about SL.
Miracles happen i guess. They ce had it good despite poverty. But I don’t think it’s going to last for long. They’re still zoos
Your last comment is pure delusion. Somalis need to get humbled in order to prosper. Only a Somali people that is self conscious and aware of its shortcoming can go forward. وخير ان شاء الله

Because your name is literally Arabsiyawi and you said you wish SL destabilizes Somalia lool

Now i am doubting that you are even Muslim or Somali. Somali don't need to be humbled, they need be liberated

You know whats funny? Somalia/Somali people are doing better than most African countries currently who have never gone through outside destabilizing efforts. So that shows you Ethiopia and all other Afircan countries are the true failed people, they are all living poverty, with lack of development and whats their excuse? Ethiopian groups massacring each-other are fighting are not even proxies. No other country invaded them.

Meanwhile Somalis were doing great when they were in-charge and ran their own affairs.