Good that it isnt prevalentTrue, but not any smaller than the risk of inbreeding and really cousin marriage isn't totally alien to somalis.
Good that it isnt prevalentTrue, but not any smaller than the risk of inbreeding and really cousin marriage isn't totally alien to somalis.
I mean if it was it would have been more bad then good. However I have seen many little anecdotes of people attempting to attribute, albeit theoretically je genius of the jews due to them being forced and forcing themselves to only marry within themselves and often family.Good that it isnt prevalent
Hypothesis are based on established truth. Yours is just a hunch. Unless I see something that could back your hypothesis.I mean if it was it would have been more bad then good. However I have seen many little anecdotes of people attempting to attribute, albeit theoretically je genius of the jews due to them being forced and forcing themselves to only marry within themselves and often family.
A hypothesis is an assumption, an idea that is proposed for the sake of argument so that it can be tested to see if it might be true.Hypothesis are based on established truth. Yours is just a hunch. Unless I see something that could back your hypothesis.
Then I totally reject your notion that there is some good to it.
"the Ashkenazi Jewish population is genetically more diverse than people of European descent,"
Source: https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/911814
I feel like you are downplaying the risk that comes with cousin marriages and trying to pass your hypothesis as something factual when you writeA hypothesis is an assumption, an idea that is proposed for the sake of argument so that it can be tested to see if it might be true.
Traditionally jews have a had a reputation to be a more closeted group in terms of marriage. I know that today they don't. But I'm using anecdotes from the past hence I'm using the words hypothesis and anecdotes.
Having a marriage comes with risk of hereditary disease in of itself. First cousin marriage only has a risk of 4-6% whilst second cousin marriages are negligible since itโs about the same risk (2-3%) that non-cousin couples have. The issue is with multi-generational cousin marriageI feel like you are downplaying the risk that comes with cousin marriages and trying to pass your hypothesis as something factual when you write
"I mean if it was it would have been more bad then good."
There is proof that cousin marriages comes with risk of hereditary diseases but wether there is something good about it is your own unproven hypothesis of yours so to say
"I mean if it was it would have been more bad then good."
As if its factual there may be something good in cousin marriages is wrong.
If cousins want to get married they can, the prophet Muhammed (SAWS) married his cousin, I'm not saying its Sunnah to marry your cousin but at the same time I don't agree with your view that people shouldn't marry their cousins.Just because your male cousins are not your mahrem, doesn't mean you should marry them. I always saw it as a way to protect women (covering up, not being alone with males), not a guidance on who to marry.
This is a kufr statement and goes directly against the Quran.I consider people who marry their first cousin to be their mahrem (genetically speaking) look how close they are even if theyโre not siblings.
This is a kufr statement and goes directly against the Quran.
They share about 12.5% of the same DNAโฆI consider people who marry their first cousin to be their mahrem (genetically speaking) look how close they are even if theyโre not siblings.
They share about 12.5% of the same DNAโฆ
Huh? Havent you read the thread. First cousin marriage is taboo in our culture and not recommend in Islam. So what western culture am I pushing. Y'all defending cousin marriage with your life.Having a marriage comes with risk of hereditary disease in of itself. First cousin marriage only has a risk of 4-6% whilst second cousin marriages are negligible since itโs about the same risk (2-3%) that non-cousin couples have. The issue is with multi-generational cousin marriage
Itโs fine if you have completely assimilated with modern western culture and see cousin marriage as taboo, but there is no need to enforce that on us and shoe horn it by overstating the risk
Taboo in which culture again? Have you ever been to SomaliaHuh? Havent you read the thread. First cousin marriage is taboo in our culture and not recommend in Islam. So what western culture am I pushing. Y'all defending cousin marriage with your life.
Idk what you community you from but never heard of first cousins marrying each other.Taboo in which culture again? Have you ever been to Somalia![]()
I donโt think marrying with in a sub sub clan is too bad. The genetic diversity within that clan always increases since there is a healthy amount of marrying from other clans. You might marry your cousin but your son will probably marry from another clan decreasing the already low risk. Plus, there really is no tradition or widespread multi-generational cousin inbreeding which the main problemThatโs pretty bad regardless considering the similarities of our genetic makeups when weโre marrying within our sub subs clan. first marriage can go up to 13% higher. The issue is: because Somalis marry within their clans is not necessarily a good idea to marry your first cousin which can lead to genetic deformities.
Donโt argue with this guy, he wants his kid to be retardedIdk what you community you from but never heard of first cousins marrying each other.
Also "its prevalent in Somalia" isnt an argument for continuing with this bad practice. You want to make us more incompetent, stupid and ugly? Ethnic Somalis need to mix. Go find a woman from another gobol. Your cousin cant be that pretty for you to defend first cousin marriage with your life
Every thing you have stated about first cousin marriage is completely non-factualโฆIdk what you community you from but never heard of first cousins marrying each other.
Also "its prevalent in Somalia" isnt an argument for continuing with this bad practice. You want to make us more incompetent, stupid and ugly? Ethnic Somalis need to mix. Go find a woman from another gobol. Your cousin cant be that pretty for you to defend first cousin marriage with your life
Imam ash-Shafiโee (may Allah have mercy upon him) said:
ููููุณู ู ููู ููููู ู ูุง ููุฎูุฑูุฌูููู ููุณูุงุกูููู ู ุฅูููู ุฑูุฌูุงูู ุบูููุฑูููู ู ููู ุงูุชููุฒููููุฌู ุ ูููุง ุฑูุฌูุงููููู ู ุฅูููู ููุณูุงุกู ุบูููุฑูููู ู ููู ุงูุชููุฒููููุฌู ุ ุฅููุง ุฌูุงุกู ุฃููููุงุฏูููู ู ุญูู ูููู
โThere is not a group of people who do not bring forth their women to marry men other than their own men, nor do their men go forth to marry women other than their own, except their children will be fools (i.e. born with a mental defect)โ [Adaab ash-Shaafiโee wa Manaaqibuhu (pg. 99) with a Saheeh chain of narration]
Our ancestors had a taboo on cousin marriage until recently.Imam al-Maawardi (may Allah have mercy upon him) said: โThey (i.e. the Arab) used to choose or the likes of this situation marrying those who are distantly related and are strangers (to each other). They saw that this is more conducive for childbirth and excellent for the creation (of a newborn). They used to avoid marrying family and relatives. They saw that it was harmful for the creation of the child and its birthโ End translation. [Adab ad-Dunya wad-Deen (pg. 173)]
If your parents are related or your grand parents. Then it isnt one off.Every thing you have stated about first cousin marriage is completely non-factualโฆ
Itโs โprevalent in Somaliaโ was a counter to your claim that it is somehow taboo in our culture. I donโt dispute we need to mix but thatโs no reason to demonise a one off first cousin marriage