Somali men who would have liberated Somalia are not born yet

[Odeg]

I think you're confusing idiocy with ignorance.

Neither of my degrees are social science related but I have nothing but respect for SS's. They produce teachers, politicians and other change bearers. SS's also influence the law and government policy. It's not to be looked down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot
I don't look down SS's but it would explain things because SS instutions have been a target for feminists for a long time.

 

[Hubble]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot
I don't look down SS's but it would explain things because SS instutions have been a target for feminists for a long time.

I.e a certain type of idiot

I don't even see myself as a feminist. I just want everyone to be able to live life to the max but none of the wasakh stuff men and women in the west think is freedom like unbridled sex and drug taking.

 

[Geeljire]

I think there is huge linguistic flaw to collapse ''Feminism'' with ''Womens rights'' as both concepts articulate completly different social realities.

• Somali womens rights responds to injustice against women but seeks solutions within the cultural/biological context, thus it does not ignore or deny the biological design of men and women.

• Feminism on the other hand is a Eurocentric reactionary movement created in the 50s, the sole purpose is to pervert human nature and is in agreement with everything that breaks up the Family Unit.

In Somali Society we focus more on Harmony instead of Tick For Tack Equality. We dont Focus on Individualism but rather communal collectivism.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...e-apart-daughter-The-Color-Purple-author.html

Feminism has betrayed an entire generation of women into childlessness. It is devastating.

 

[Hubble]

If they're not built for something biologically surely they'd fail in it and there'd be no reason to even discuss it.

 

[Geeljire]

If they're not built for something biologically surely they'd fail in it and there'd be no reason to even discuss it.

Or surely they will be worse at it and have less of a prefrence for it and lose their role. The female is compliment for the male of the species and being a compliment and being a compliment there are sexual dimorphic characterstics, which defines gender roles.

Men and women are team. A married couple with kids can't be a team when they are competing against eachother for the same postitions in society

 

[Hubble]

En Anglais s'il vous plais, et en detail

 

[Geeljire]

En Anglais s'il vous plais, et en detail

Well aren't you a bit bigoted

 

[Mugheerah]

Or surely they will be worse at it and have less of a prefrence for it and lose their role. The female is compliment for the male of the species and being a compliment and being a compliment there are sexual dimorphic characterstics, which defines gender roles.

Men and women are team. A married couple with kids can't be a team when they are competing against eachother for the same postitions in society

Sxb some people on here at not seeking out facts. They just want to dispute without knowledge. There are the ignorant who know that they are ignorant and they are the learners. Then there are the ignorant who don't know they are ignorant. Islamic philosophers call this Jahl alMurrakab. They want to strip Somalis of their culture and values. America itself was most prosperous before the feminist movement began.

 

[Hubble]

Well aren't you a bit bigoted

Loool. Listen a couple can compete with the nation's best for similar roles in society. That's a dynamic powerful couple and an asset to society. They can come home to each other and talk about the gains they both made.

 

[BebsiBolice]

Sxb some people on here at not seeking out facts. They just want to dispute without knowledge. There are the ignorant who know that they are ignorant and they are the learners. Then there are the ignorant who don't know they are ignorant. Islamic philosophers call this Jahl alMurrakab. They want to strip Somalis of their culture and values. America itself was most prosperous before the feminist movement began.

What facts? What knowledge? Your only source for everything is religion, the words of sheiks and yet you have the nerve to say some people are not seeking out facts. some of us base our opinions and beliefs on other factors than religion. You're an embarrassment to humanity. Your kind is the very reason why countless of muslim countries are in ruins. Your kind oppose progress. You want to strip Somalis of our culture and values simply because they don't align with your medieval beliefs.

 

[54321]

What facts? What knowledge? Your only source for everything is religion, the words of sheiks and yet you have the nerve to say some people are not seeking out facts. some of us base our opinions and beliefs on other factors than religion. You're an embarrassment to humanity. Your kind is the very reason why countless of muslim countries are in ruins. Your kind oppose progress. You want to strip Somalis of our culture and values simply because they don't align with your medieval beliefs.

That's the point. He has that opinion because he believes that's what the religion states. That's the be all and end all for him. Looking at facts, other opinions, discussing things etc Doesn't factor into it for him.

 

[Racer]

Sxb some people on here at not seeking out facts. They just want to dispute without knowledge. There are the ignorant who know that they are ignorant and they are the learners. Then there are the ignorant who don't know they are ignorant. Islamic philosophers call this Jahl alMurrakab. They want to strip Somalis of their culture and values. America itself was most prosperous before the feminist movement began.

Hortaa what is your argument for and against and why does Somali affairs concern you when your not even a Somali ?, are you not a Arab should you not be more concerned about your Arab females making sure they don't drive and stuff ? talking about ancient systems that are not compatible with modern times sxb for ever stuck in the year 1200/1300 and then to top it of talking about other country affairs like your one of them please have several seats absolute ridiculousness

 

[Geeljire]

Sxb some people on here at not seeking out facts. They just want to dispute without knowledge. There are the ignorant who know that they are ignorant and they are the learners. Then there are the ignorant who don't know they are ignorant. Islamic philosophers call this Jahl alMurrakab. They want to strip Somalis of their culture and values. America itself was most prosperous before the feminist movement began.

The feminist movement in America began primarily not due to oppression or patriarchy whatever but due the elites wanting to tax the other half of the population to generate more revenues and make women dependent on the state.

In the West, economic and social trends historically pushed women into more active roles in the economy,

Honestly i don't see how it is liberating to equate yourself to males at the expense of losing your womanhood.

The end result will be alot of broken homes and a disamantled family unit.

 

[Hubble]

The feminist movement in America began primarily not due to oppression or patriarchy whatever but due the elites wanting to tax the other half of the population to generate more revenues and make women dependent on the state.

In the West, economic and social trends historically pushed women into more active roles in the economy,

Honestly i don't see how it is liberating to equate yourself to males at the expense of losing your womanhood.

The end result will be alot of broken homes and a disamantled family unit.

Standards of living improved after more women entered the workforce so it was win win.

 

[Mugheerah]

What facts? What knowledge? Your only source for everything is religion, the words of sheiks and yet you have the nerve to say some people are not seeking out facts. some of us base our opinions and beliefs on other factors than religion. You're an embarrassment to humanity. Your kind is the very reason why countless of muslim countries are in ruins. Your kind oppose progress. You want to strip Somalis of our culture and values simply because they don't align with your medieval beliefs.

I'm talking about historical facts and statistical facts. Western philosophers also have similar views on the concept of knowledge. Muslim countries in the world are not in ruins because of their beliefs and values. They are in ruins by not following our noble traditions. We are encouraged to excel in science and all areas of study. If you're speaking facts why was Somalia more prosperous before they started associating with western diplomats? How am I stripping Somali of their customs? There is no place for feminism in the Xeer system. In fact you're the embarrassment to humanity. Feminism has not existed in any nation prior to 1837. Tell us the benefits feminism has brought? Lower fertility? Emasculated men? Corrupt society? Look at the economy and prosperity of countries before the manifestation of feminism within their nation. You are saying HUMANKIND were wrong for THOUSANDS of years and a MAN (who by the way, was a Zionist) discovered humanity's problems in 1837? You're the biggest embarrassment. You act as if religious people can't be civilised. Did you know that the 'west' during the dark ages were 'englightened by Muslim moors (who taught them science, ethics, everything, including bathing not with a soap) which lead to the age of 'enlightenment'?

 

[gilic mech]

(Mgtow)male version of feminsim

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[Geeljire]

Loool. Listen a couple can compete with the nation's best for similar roles in society. That's a dynamic powerful couple and an asset to society. They can come home to each other and talk about the gains they both made.

Not really thats a dynamic not interested in the priority of family or creating new life. The feminist is in agreement with everything that breaks the family unit and inhibits procreation.

Somali feminism is distinctly heterosexual, supportive of motherhood, and focused on issues of “bread, butter, culture, and power

The one absolute in Somali culture is the de-emphasis on individuality and the emphasis on community

The daughter of a leading feminist Alice Walker said:

Feminism has betrayed an entire generation of women into childlessness. It is devastating.

My mother's feminist principles coloured every aspect of my life. As a little girl, I wasn't even allowed to play with dolls or stuffed toys in case they brought out a maternal instinct. It was drummed into me that being a mother, raising children and running a home were a form of slavery. Having a career, travelling the world and being independent were what really mattered according to her.

 

[AceofSom]

This dhagacas idiot is trying to impose his backward medieval mental on us Somalis.

 

[54321]

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[54321]

Not really thats a dynamic not interested in the priority of family or creating new life. The feminist is in agreement with everything that breaks the family unit and inhibits procreation.

Somali feminism is distinctly heterosexual, supportive of motherhood, and focused on issues of “bread, butter, culture, and power

The one commonality in all African cultures is the de-emphasis on individuality and the emphasis on community

The daughter of a leading feminist Alice Walker said:

Her mother was obviously an extremist. Feminism for me and virtually everyone I have ever met to discuss about it, is about freedom to choose. If you want to start a family and have a traditional role, that's your life and your choice, if you want to be a mixed martial arts fighter with an engineering career, that's your choice. What is harmful is pushing people into roles that are not their choice and something that they otherwise would not have chosen. Like what her mother was doing.