Somali men who would have liberated Somalia are not born yet

[Geeljire]

I don't know who that lady is so I can't speak to that. I don't know anything about her. In any case, I doubt that is in her job description.
But you seem to defend 'cultural values' seemingly at all cost. Any and all manner of strange and negative things have been defended along those lines. I don't think change is inherently bad (it is at times necessary, and mostly inevitable anyway). Somali culture changes and will change. Giving women a greater role in society would not constitute a fundamental change to somali culture.

Well i'm not supposed to responsible for your lack awareness. The point is it's these diaspora women who dictate the narrative they don't allow for open debate and get women with opposite views or locals a space in any discussion.

Without a doubt bad cultural practices exist in the world and culture should cultivate. Don't get me wrong i in no regard think that if something is Somali it is by default better.

But the problem however is the fact that people don't value cultures as equals and don't try to understand it in context of plurality. People are largely ethnocentric,

 

[Zayd]

Look at how you fucking contradict yourself naayaa, you're not bright are you? How can religion be the cause of tribal feuds when bloodshed in the name of tribalism is not Islamic? How can Islam be the cause of extremism when that's against the religion? How can Islam be the reason of lack of human rights when that's against Islam?You're reasoning cannot be classed as inductive nor deductive. You spew nonsense on false premise like I said. Also explain why Somalia was prosperous before they've started associating with western diplomats? An embarrassment you are. Save yourself from the embarrassment and stop commenting.

After all that she's a Muslim, while conflating Islam with the most shameful things. How the

I am a muslim. I'm a muslim that denounces your view of Islam. The only thing your kind discusses are religion, male dominance, qaabiil, and how to control women's minds and wombs. Don't you ever question my religion. If you are a Muslim and are well read in Islam you would know questioning another persons religion is haram. Only Allah is allowed to be the judge. His abeeds are not so please find your seat.

Kalima Al-Haq, yuriduunaha baatil.

Okay my Muslim sister, why is it you share so much in common with Ayan Hirsi? Right down to your arguements?

I'd be worried if my views were identical with someone who is bound to rub shoulders with Fircoon for eternity.

 

[Odeg]

Do they actually think people back in Somalia are not aware of these ideologies? Wallah I've spoken to many of them and they are a lot more educated than these 'englightened' xalimos. Of course people in Islamic countries are well aware of these topics and most reject them outright. Did these people think they would go back to Somalia and 'bring them out of darkness'? LMFAO.

On top of being misguided these "englightened xalimos" have been infected with western arrogance.

 

[BebsiBolice]

For all you fanatic religious terror worshiping freaks. LAKUM DIINKUM WALI DINIKU

DON'T YOU BASTARDS EVER BE THE JUDGE.

Surah Al-Kafiroon

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful​

Say: O disbelievers! (1) I worship not that which ye worship; (2) Nor worship ye that which I worship. (3) And I shall not worship that which ye worship. (4) Nor will ye worship that which I worship. (5) Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion. (6)​

 

[Racer]

What a pussy, describe how my vascular forearms look, you neg.

Edit I apologize for that distasteful comment anyway time to calm down woosah listen to some Bach, Mozart amaa Pavarotti to calm the nerves

 

[Bahal]

rub shoulders with Fircoon for eternity.

 

[54321]

Well i'm not supposed to responsible for your lack awarness.1 The point it's these diaspora women who dictate the narrative they don't allow for open debate and get women with opposite views or locals a space in any discussion.2

Without a doubt bad cultural practices exist in the world and culture should cultivate. Don't get me wrong i in no regard think that if something is Somali it is by default better.

But the problem however is the fact that people don't value cultures as equals and don't try to understand it in context of plurality.3

Come on @Beeldaaje, somebody just had to explain to you who the female pilot was, no need to be salty.
I'm not in favour of anyone imposing their views or not allowing people in to discuss. If you have a problem with what that puntland women does, you have to take it up with her.
I don't think we disagree as much as you think. Anyway, I've got some popcorn and I'm watching this fest, stop disturbing me.

 

[Zayd]

Waar Hoyaada siilkeyda usheeg now go suck on some hairy Arab nuts f*ck out of the west back to what ever desert hell hole you want to go to

Is this your way of saying that you subconsciously think about latching onto a pair of Arabic testicles? I can now see why you're so frustrated, however revealing your subconscious imprinted thoughts won't heal you.

 

[BebsiBolice]

Look at how you fucking contradict yourself naayaa, you're not bright are you? How can religion be the cause of tribal feuds when bloodshed in the name of tribalism is not Islamic? How can Islam be the cause of extremism when that's against the religion? How can Islam be the reason of lack of human rights when that's against Islam?You're reasoning cannot be classed as inductive nor deductive. You spew nonsense on false premise like I said. Also explain why Somalia was prosperous before they've started associating with western diplomats? An embarrassment you are. Save yourself from the embarrassment and stop commenting.

can't you read I said clainism and religion is the problem. Not that the two are the same. We have a problem with haram interpretation of Islam and people killing because of qaabiiil. Two different problems that we need to fix.

 

[BebsiBolice]

And why is an arab interfering with Somali politics. Go home to sex segregated Saudi Arabi where dogs have a higher rank than women.

 

[Mugheerah]

Why have humankind prospered since the beginning of the human race without feminism?

These retards think having paper money in abundance means that the economy is prospering. They are unaware of the state debt, inflation, the ratio of credit and money that's in circulation, etc.

Also did you know that Somalia was prosperous before they started associating with western diplomats?

In fact it was these western diplomats that ruined the economy of Somalia. That's right, these 'western' countries that some of you seem to worship.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2...te-it-was-destroyed-imf-structural-adjustment

Why were Muslims the MOST prosperous nation in the Islamic golden age?

 

[Geeljire]

Come on @Beeldaaje, somebody just had to explain to you who the female pilot was, no need to be salty.
I'm not in favour of anyone imposing their views or not allowing people in to discuss. If you have a problem with what that puntland women does, you have to take it up with her.
I don't think we disagree as much as you think. Anyway, I've got some popcorn and I'm watching this fest, stop disturbing me.

Saaxiib i have no beef with puntland women they are beautiful ,hard working and intelligent women. Alhamdulillah!

All i'm saying is that people from the west are trying to push Ethnocentrism. That is it. It always gets problematic when i bring examples or analogies to explain something i end up making people more confused.

 

[Tucking_Fypo]

Barni as a radical feminist do you also believe that the act of penetration of a woman by a man is an act of oppression of women and should be labeled rape

 

[AceofSom]

And why is an arab interfering with Somali politics. Go home to sex segregated Saudi Arabi where dogs have a higher rank than women.

DAMN

 

[BebsiBolice]

Why have humankind prospered since the beginning of the human race without feminism?

These retards think having paper money in abundance means that the economy is prospering. They are unaware of the state debt, inflation, the ratio of credit and money that's in circulation, etc.

Also did you know that Somalia was prosperous before they started associating with western diplomats?

In fact it was these western diplomats that ruined the economy of Somalia. That's right, these 'western' countries that some of you seem to worship.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2...te-it-was-destroyed-imf-structural-adjustment

Why were Muslims the MOST prosperous nation in the Islamic golden age?

OMG I don't think it's healthy to be this obsessed with Islam. Go out get some fresh air. Talk to people, preferably women lol . And remember you are not God.

 

[BebsiBolice]

Barni as a radical feminist do you also believe that the act of penetration of a woman by a man is an act of oppression of women and should be labeled rape

rape and sex are not the same thing. Are you trolling?

 

[54321]

Saaxiib i have no beef with puntland women they are beautiful ,hard working and intelligent women. Alhamdulillah!

i'm only saying that people from the west are trying push Ethnocentrism. That is it. It always gets problematic when i bring examples or analogies to explain something i end up making people more confused.

You could claim ethnocentrism for either side depending on the circumstance.
When I said 'the puntland woman' I was referring to the politician you linked me to.

 

[Bahal]

Why have humankind prospered since the beginning of the human race without feminism?

These retards think having paper money in abundance means that the economy is prospering. They are unaware of the state debt, inflation, the ratio of credit and money that's in circulation, etc.

Also did you know that Somalia was prosperous before they started associating with western diplomats?

In fact it was these western diplomats that ruined the economy of Somalia. That's right, these 'western' countries that some of you seem to worship.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2...te-it-was-destroyed-imf-structural-adjustment

Why were Muslims the MOST prosperous nation in the Islamic golden age?

Wallahi one of the most convoluted posts I've ever read



Nigga went from the beginning of humanity to the IMF to the Islamic Golden Age

 

[Hubble]

Barni as a radical feminist do you also believe that the act of penetration of a woman by a man is an act of oppression of women and should be labeled rape

That one author was a lesbian fyi

 

[Tucking_Fypo]

rape and sex are not the same thing. Are you trolling?

That's according to radical feminism which you said you believed in