Taliban ban female owned shops

Hamzza

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How many taliban related threads are you going to start ?

Did you even bother to read the source that guy quoted ? Your thread & that guy's tweet are both misleading as important details are left out. The closure ONLY applied to some stores not a complete closure of ALL stores owned by women as you're implying. Furthermore we don't if the closures are indefinite or only partial until the stores rectify the issues.

This is what the source states

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@Ahmedahmed5000 is clearly a foreign agent, the single purpose he is on this forum is to spread propaganda. I exposed her/him citing well-known Islamophobes as sources many times.
 

Qeelbax

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Why would they tell them to close it by next Thursday, instead of forcing them to wear correct hijab?

Unless you were born yesterday, I highly doubt those women would refuse to wear correct hijab and risk losing their shop, considering the fact that people are starving and there isn’t any job security.

Does that sound logical to you? Third world women refusing to wear proper hijab in the face of their livelihood drying up?

There must be more to the story.


Proper Hijab to the Taliban means no woman even looking in the direction of a man that isn't mahrem.


What is that I'm reading?
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Two weeks after the Taliban banned Afghan women from working for national and international non-governmental organizations (NGOs), the group gave women at the women-only Rabia Balkhi and City Walk markets in Balkh province orders to close down their businesses.


“We are a three-member family, I don’t have a husband, and the living expenses are on my shoulders. I work here and the Taliban have told me not to work anymore and it is tough for me,” she said.

Najiba, another trader at the Rabia Balkhi market, said that she is the only breadwinner of her nine-member family, “my father is disabled, and I have been running a shop here for seven years, and in the beginning, the sales were high, but these days [sales are] down.”

“We accepted all Taliban restrictions; wearing hijab, but now they have told us to close our shops. I have put all my capital in this shop, if this shop is closed, I will suffer a big blow [financially] and economic hardship,” Najiba said
 
That's exactly the point, we lack access to first hand source & are only relying on 3 parties. Perhaps they were given that time to sort out their issues by next Thursday or they'll face closure, there's a lot we don't know & important information is left out regarding such incidents.
Wallahi I hope so. Everyone talking about education, but if true this is worse since they’re starving and poverty has increased exponentially. The idea of people not being able to put food on the table due to gender sounds like a nightmare.
People commenting are just interested in their own agendas, why do people suddenly care about afghani women now when taliban have power & not when gaalada were occupying them or when usa froze afghani funds, sanctioning them etc?
People can care about multiple things but what riles people up the most is that these rulings are being done in the name of Islam. If they were honest and put it down to Pashtun culture, I doubt there would be a whole discussion. We’d simply look at them a being backwards jahils, but using the deen to oppress 50% of the Ummah is concerning, even if you don’t see it that way.

Where was the outrage when afghani women were being subjected to sanctions, drone attacks, killing, occupations by gaalada ?
Tbh, I didn’t see your outrage as well. You could have been outraged then and you should be outraged now. Trying to re-frame the conversation as being one or the other is reductive and juvenile. It’s literally gaslighting. Just say women’s education and financial freedom isn’t a concern of yours and save all the paragraph writing.
 
These are animals pure and simple how are you against women making money for themselves and making a lively hood the Taliban are literally the scum of the earth anyone siding with them or making it seem there's more to story is useless in my eyes tolerating hatred of women has severe ramification and we need to speak up and not allow this sort of disgusting culture in are own families and our community's as well.
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Qeelbax

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Search up the Rabia Balkhi market, it's a womens market and they're being forced to close. Y'alls excuse didn't even last an hour. It's the only womens market in Mazar-i-sharif, new excuse coming in 3....2....1...
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AdoonkaAlle

Ragna qowl baa xira, dumarna meher baa xira.
Proper Hijab to the Taliban means no woman even looking in the direction of a man that isn't mahrem. There's nothing islamically wrong with women working with men.

Women only shops? while the men control everything? A lame excuse again.

Can you tell me where was your concern for afghani women when their country was occupied ? did you express such outrage when women were killed by air attacks during weddings etc ?

There's a lot of things that i don't agree with the taliban but this doesn't mean that i resort to propaganda to malign everything that they do as if they're representation of evil itself. If you want to critique you're free to do so laakin at least have oversight that this is a country that has survived back to back invasion from gaalada. It's going to take time for them to sort their issues
 

Qeelbax

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Why do these men get riled up when we bring up womens rights in Afghanistan and start defending the Taliban?
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Can you tell me where was your concern for afghani women when their country was occupied ? did you express such outrage when women were killed by air attacks during weddings etc ?
Where was your concern? Did you start threads? What did you do? Did you donate? So why question others?

You’re not slick and we can easily see the facade right here.

There's a lot of things that i don't agree with the taliban but this doesn't mean that i resort to propaganda to malign everything that they do as if they're representation of evil itself. If you want to critique you're free to do so laakin at least have oversight that this is a country that has survived back to back invasion from gaalada. It's going to take time for them to sort their issues
Yep, that I agree on. But they’re not going to able to survive whilst curtailing the education and finances of 50% of society. It is simple as that. Using gaalada as an excuse is low-iQ. More than anything a lot of these women probably have dead mahrams/disabled ones and the like and the article talks about that. Your logic is basically, lets feel sorry for these women for dealing with the deaths of their providers, but let’s also not feel sorry that they’re being stopped them from actually being able to feed themselves as well. If you truly cared about Afghan women and children, you wouldn’t resort to this gaslighting tactic.

Look at Somalia. After years of fighting, if Somali women were treated this way, many kids would starve even more as Somali women especially after the war had to go into business to put food on the table.
 
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Qeelbax

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Can you tell me where was your concern for afghani women when their country was occupied ? did you express such outrage when women were killed by air attacks during weddings etc ?

There's a lot of things that i don't agree with the taliban but this doesn't mean that i resort to propaganda to malign everything that they do as if they're representation of evil itself. If you want to critique you're free to do so laakin at least have oversight that this is a country that has survived back to back invasion from gaalada. It's going to take time for them to sort their issues
Know who you're talking to son, I'm probably the most anti-American military person on this website. And it's way different when its gaalos harming us vs people claiming islam
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Not you having sympathy for those extremists saxiib. Muslims have been going through wars with gaals since the beginning of Islam. Tell me why women are the only ones subjugated to this nonsense?

Please tell me how closing womens schools, not allowing women to go to male doctor, forcing them to wear burqa and closing their businesses is the fault of gaalo and not their own misogynistic cultural believes being allowed to thrive while they falsely claim it's Islamic law.

Uff the bar is in hell.
 

Qeelbax

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Where was your concern? Did you start threads? What did you do? Did you donate? So why question others?

You’re not slick and we can easily see the facade right here.


Yep, that I agree on. But they’re not going to able to survive whilst curtailing the education and finances of 50% of society. It is simple as that. Using gaalada as an excuse is low-iQ. More than anything a lot of these women probably have dead mahrams/disabled ones and the like and the article talks about that.

Look at Somalia. After years of fighting, if Somali women were treated this way, many kids would starve even more as Somali women especially after the war had to go into business to put food on the table.
Why even fight with these ciyaalo sitting in western countries making excuses for women being turned into second class citizens? Akhas.
 

Qeelbax

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Just search it up, they've been closing womens shops for months now. They even said women tailoring is haram and told them to close shop. Women can't wear anything but this
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Know who you're talking to son, I'm probably the most anti-American military person on this website. And it's way different when its gaalos harming us vs people claiming islam
:kodaksmiley:
Not you having sympathy for those extremists saxiib. Muslims have been going through wars with gaals since the beginning of Islam. Tell me why women are the only ones subjugated to this nonsense?

Please tell me how closing womens schools, not allowing women to go to male doctor, forcing them to wear burqa and closing their businesses is the fault of gaalo and not their own misogynistic cultural believes being allowed to thrive while they falsely claim it's Islamic law.

Uff the bar is in hell.
Muslim women are in a rock and a hard place. We’re impacted by gaalos foreign policies and the women and children suffer for it but on the flip side the Muslim women also have to deal with the misogyny of the men in their community with 0 compassion.

It seems, being a Muslim women is a case in which they’re attacked by gaals and the men of your own community. This is probably why this issue is so emotionally charged for women. The flippant ways in which some of these men will take away our rights and at the same time the gaals will attack Muslim women for wearing hijab and simply trying to practice our deen.. Instead of protection from some Muslim men, they’re restricted and stripped away of humanity. They have debates about educating us, sexual abusing spouses, if we have the right to work and the list goes on. Whilst men are grappling with women about rights given to them in the 7th century, these very men are discussing fiqh like Islamic mortgages, banking, workers rights. All of these are modern concepts but they’ll create fatwas about that to make life easier for themselves in living in the 21st century.

Example, Afghan women lost their families. Have had to deal with famine, violence and the like due to gaalada, yet when they try to rebuild their lives by educating themselves and for many women putting food on the table to combat the starvation as many of their mahrams were killed by these gaalada the men in their very community stop them and make their lives harder for them.

This isn’t propaganda as actual practicing people who are Afghans have said that on the grounds it’s terrible for women there. They don’t need to take news from Talibans propaganda, they have direct family who are telling them about their daily lives.
 
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The Chinese government has imprisoned more than one million muslims yet this joke of a "islamic" country can't say a word.
 

Qeelbax

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The Chinese government has imprisoned more than one million muslims yet this joke of a "islamic" country can't say a word.
too busy trading drugs with them. You know since that business is so halal
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AdoonkaAlle

Ragna qowl baa xira, dumarna meher baa xira.
Wallahi I hope so. Everyone talking about education, but if true this is worse since they’re starving and poverty has increased exponentially. The idea of people not being able to put food on the table due to gender sounds like a nightmare.

People can care about multiple things but what riles people up the most is that these rulings are being done in the name of Islam. If they were honest and put it down to Pashtun culture, I doubt there would be a whole discussion. We’d simply look at them a being backwards jahils, but using the deen to oppress 50% of the Ummah is concerning, even if you don’t see it that way.


Tbh, I didn’t see your outrage as well. You could have been outraged then and you should be outraged now. Trying to re-frame the conversation as being one or the other is reductive and juvenile. It’s literally gaslighting. Just say women’s education and financial freedom isn’t a concern of yours and save all the paragraph writing.

The issue is that they do have a basis in islam , take for instance the issue of free mixing, lack of observing hijab these are very important matters in the deen. So you can't say that they don't have basis, you don't live in afghanistan just like me and have no idea what the situation is exactly like, all we do is rely on 3 parties on information.

Had i not bothered to verify the information in the OP, neither you nor those critiquing the taliban regarding this incident would've checked it out. The tweet was another example how the taliban are using deen to oppress women to you, this is what mattered to you not the truth. You weren't interested in anything else

This wasn't the first time that you acted in such a manner, remember the thread about the cnn documentary show casing am afghani father selling his daughter off due to poverty, you weren't bothered by it just like even though it was fake news. Now why is this ? You didn't care that they were under occupation, all that was important to you was confronting misogyny of muslim men.


Unlike you i always have husna dhan for muslims regardless of their gender & don't condemn them though foreign worldviews. This is what separates me from you, our starting point is different and as a result of it your end up projecting your bias to any societal issue that muslim have.

I'm not the one who's contradicting themselves here, only caring about women's issues ONLY when the alleged preparators are muslim men. In fact i've questioned you multiple times regarding your selective portrayal of women's issues in general.
 

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