It's ramadan so i'll reframe from proving you wrong due to the immense fitnah it would cause
1500s - The Somali century
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Ok then eid it is.
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The Somali century in East Africa*There was no Somali century. There was a period of intense economic growth brought by expansion of trade and development of Muslim polities between 1000s - 1600s.
It afforded them the increased ability to venture out to different places and participate in the global trade and economy. However Somalis locus political control was mostly only extended to inside their own inhabited territories.
It was not really that much different from the trade that resumed and expanded and the maritime/industry activities between the late 1700s- 1900s and the development of new Muslim polities and towns/trade centers during that period - with the difference being introduction to capitalistic alterations in terms of production.
Nigga there was no such thing as global superpower until the 1800s.
But we still threw these words around in modern discussions to show admiration.
I want to say gold digger but you'd probably see that as a compliment instead of an insult. Only god can save your kind
No still inaccurate. What you can say instead is that Somalis had an important role in shaping the regional economy. And that's not limited to only the 1500s either.
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Haa lakiin the 1500s saw the greatest extent of Adal & Ajuuran which is why I called it the Somali century. Please tell me one polity that could challenge us in the region?
Portuguese the 'superpower' of their day got cooked by both empires. Ethiopia nearly got sent to the shadow realm by Ahmad Gurey. All other tribes were either paying tribute or converting to Islam.
Somalis were always important in trade and commerce but we reached our peak here.
Maybe make the swahilli coast a bit smaller cause we didn't control that as well as sofala possessions a bit smaller and damn just reduce Madagascar to the north only and it would be accurate, adal is accurate but bit ajuran.
Swahilis were also crushed by the Portuguese and later taken over by Oman. Somalis were really the only important power in East Africa aside from the Amhara
Those were polities inside Somali territories and they existed from the 11000s until their eventual decline in the 1500s. Which was actually brought down by the Portuguese trade disturbance. So their peak wasn't 1500s it was actually their decline.
There was polities like that between late 1700s and 1900s and their main purpose was to facilitate trade & production and to protect their own lands.
Their purpose wasn't to extend political control outside the Somali realm and cook people/empires in war. Or whatever else you are on about.
They fought wars to protect themselves and their own lands, not to flex on others.
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Emir of Zayla
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10th to 16th centuries was really the Somali Golden Age. It saw the highest proliferation of new stone cities in sub-Saharan Africa, that were known by every civilisation across the world, the local polities also packed a major punch militarily and had an impactful cultural and political influence from Sudan to Tanzania.
The most famous historical figures, scholars, travellers, both local and foreign (like Ibn Battuta), also date from that specific Golden Age.
This is when Islam firmly rooted itself in Somalia, and the conquest of Abyssinia was destined to be the icing on the cake where we would have become the 4th Gunpowder Empire, but alas it wasn’t meant to be and we took the path of the Hanseatic League instead.
Therefore not a Somali Century, but a multi-centuries long Somali Golden Age, diminished eventually by the Portuguese.
The most famous historical figures, scholars, travellers, both local and foreign (like Ibn Battuta), also date from that specific Golden Age.
This is when Islam firmly rooted itself in Somalia, and the conquest of Abyssinia was destined to be the icing on the cake where we would have become the 4th Gunpowder Empire, but alas it wasn’t meant to be and we took the path of the Hanseatic League instead.
Therefore not a Somali Century, but a multi-centuries long Somali Golden Age, diminished eventually by the Portuguese.
Emir of Zayla
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What do you mean by this?
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Damn, might have to reconsider your offer regarding my enlistment into the Gaal military faction.
.There was economic growth and increase i trade like i said. Urbanism is a byproduct of that just like what happened in any other place in Africa, or Asia or Europe. There is nothing special to this or unique in what happened in Somalia.
Whether you want to believe it's a Golden age or what not is entirely subjective, because there was economic growth - increase in trade - proliferation of scholars - travelers/sailors to different locations during the late 1700s- 1900s. Foreign visitors like Ibn Battuta from elsewhere came to our shores as well during this period.
Might have been similar in periods prior to the 1100s as well. There was a decline between late 1500s and late 1700s it was due to trade deficit and war/political turmoil.
Having trade contact with different locations on the Red sea- Indian ocean does not mean we had impactful political or culture influence in those locations. Sometimes it did.
There is no need to create exaggerated , glorified spins and framing of Somali history, to explain away what naturally developed inside our own territories and whats been a simple feature throughout.
There was no Somali century. There was a period of intense economic growth brought by expansion of trade and development of Muslim polities between 1000s - 1600s.
It afforded them the increased ability to venture out to different places and participate in the global trade and economy. However Somalis locus political control was mostly only extended to inside their own inhabited territories.
It was not really that much different from the trade that resumed and expanded and the maritime/industry activities between the late 1700s- 1900s and the development of new polities and towns/trade centers during that period - with the difference being introduction to capitalistic alterations in terms of production.
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