Ethiopia to secure a port through negotiation or force

[Yazi]

All ill say sxb is dont unerestimate somalis if youre demoralized and your spirit is broken by a mere 3 decades of humiliation then you should stop trying to dissuade others for youre a weakling.

My exact point three decades and what do you have to show for? Today Onlf are Abiye's biggest lackeys. All he had to do is shut down jail Ogaden for you to submit to him. Mind you, this is the single largest Somali sub clan in the horn of Africa still, couldn't free itself from Ethiopia and instead thier capital Jigjiga is being flood by Amxaroo and ruled by them. Yes do tell me what the 30 year ONLF struggle amount to, all important federal positions in Ogadenia are filled by Amxaroo and every couple years you lose a degmo to Oromo or Ethiopia.


Empty bravado.

 

[SamaaleCushite]

My exact point three decades and what do you have to show for? Today Onlf are Abiye's biggest lackeys. All he had to do is shut down jail Ogaden for you to submit to him. Mind you, this is the single largest Somali sub clan in the horn of Africa still, couldn't free itself from Ethiopia and instead thier capital Jigjiga is being flood by Amxaroo and ruled by them. Yes do tell me what the 30 year ONLF struggle amount to, all important federal positions in Ogadenia are filled by Amxaroo and every couple years you lose a degmo to Oromo or Ethiopia.


Empty bravado.

i never discussed the struggle i was talking about the petroleum sueveying station raid, which was a success in delaying it until more favorable terms were reached many years later. Stop being overly emotional and stop talking as if its a clan thing every degmo lost or every region that suiffers is a somali region the sooner somalis adopt this belief the better. Stop thinking like a horse tied to a chair.

 

[bidenkulaha]

They still occupied Mogadishu despite the high number of casualties and only driven out by Al Shabaab guerrilla warfare. Not a single clan militia can stand up to Ethiopia if it indeed invades their region

Not Shabaab but Cayr.

Response: Somalia asked us to save them from this brutal sub-clan

Response: Hardline ideologists were introducing a tyrannical regime. Ethiopia had to act, says Berhanu Kebede.

www.theguardian.com

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

What hardware? They invaded Mogadishu without an air force. Cold war era tanks and artillery, not a single plane was involved. ICU technicals were no match for Ethiopian army they fled to Eritrea. ONLF was decimated in 2007, the region was dealt with like a military state of emergency, Zenawi letter of death burning villages and genociding the civilian inhabitants. They still went on with oil explorations.

they had American Air suppprt and the entire invasion was backed By the US. The Ethiopian nearly lost all their gains within 2 years to the insurgents before they pulled back.

My exact point three decades and what do you have to show for? Today Onlf are Abiye's biggest lackeys. All he had to do is shut down jail Ogaden for you to submit to him. Mind you, this is the single largest Somali sub clan in the horn of Africa still, couldn't free itself from Ethiopia and instead thier capital Jigjiga is being flood by Amxaroo and ruled by them. Yes do tell me what the 30 year ONLF struggle amount to, all important federal positions in Ogadenia are filled by Amxaroo and every couple years you lose a degmo to Oromo or Ethiopia.


Empty bravado.

Why lie when their not even in power lol.

 

[World]

Ethiopia could easily do this but international law makes this impossible.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

Yes because amhara extremists would never lie about the oromo and/or other nations. Ha.

 

[Calaami]

The good news? Somalia (and Djibouti) are safe from Itoobiya’s port grabbing shenanigans due to Aabo America’s presence.

The bad news? SL and Eritrea are Abiy’s targets.

 

[Step a side]

Not Shabaab but Cayr.

Response: Somalia asked us to save them from this brutal sub-clan

Response: Hardline ideologists were introducing a tyrannical regime. Ethiopia had to act, says Berhanu Kebede.

www.theguardian.com

Ceyr have my respect due to the bravery and courage they showed when the city was invaded but let’s not pretend they were the only ones. Saleebaan and Murusade were involved too. In fact Murusade led the war against the Ethiopians as it is custom to do so during war amongs the Hawiye. This is also the time when many people like Mahad Karatay sold their soul!

 

[Ismacilssc]

My exact point three decades and what do you have to show for? Today Onlf are Abiye's biggest lackeys. All he had to do is shut down jail Ogaden for you to submit to him. Mind you, this is the single largest Somali sub clan in the horn of Africa still, couldn't free itself from Ethiopia and instead thier capital Jigjiga is being flood by Amxaroo and ruled by them. Yes do tell me what the 30 year ONLF struggle amount to, all important federal positions in Ogadenia are filled by Amxaroo and every couple years you lose a degmo to Oromo or Ethiopia.


Empty bravado.

U must be one f those raw meat eaters I've heard of get the f*ck out here with that langaab talk you think somali won't regain control of Ogaden because it is an inevitable outcome and there's not much you or any of raw meat eating khashins can do about it

 

[Sasuke_09]

Ethiopia is eyeing zila port they may try to convince samaroon to join them and leave isaaqland.

I actually support this

 

[Diaspora ambassador]

They still occupied Mogadishu despite the high number of casualties and only driven out by Al Shabaab guerrilla warfare. Not a single clan militia can stand up to Ethiopia if it indeed invades their region

Best believe if they attack a whole gobol without any back up from other somalis. It is destined to fail.

You must realise this, the foreigners in somalia are invited.

Hence why i laugh when ruto said kenya will stay in somalia


How is a 30k army suppose to pull this one off

Same goes with the ethiopians 100k somalis unified, trained and supplied would destroy habasha land kkkk

Why else did the uae ask somalis to enter the yemeni civil war.

Think walaal think

 

[MrDeeni1]

Ethiopia doesn’t understand Somalia if they think this is achievable. It doesn’t matter how weak the FGS is (which is gaining in strength and will flex it’s muscles against Ethiopia in the long run), the clan politics in this country won’t allow Ethiopia to have a free port as any clan that builds a port/has access to it will want all the taxes to come from it. And Ethiopia has failed miserably when up against clan dynamics in the past.

Forget the port itself, you have road taxes everywhere which is very lucrative to local clans. Imagine Ethiopia not only building a port in any of the states, then having to escort every single truck driver to Ethiopia with a division of military forces because that’s what it would take.

That used to be the case but is no longer the case and hasnt been for years now. Federalism has created con-federlism.

If Ethophia for example attacked SL to get the port most somalis in las anod/awdal would be happy ( which is wrong but look what SL is doing in that area, same with PL being attacked and Mogadishu being happy and not helping , same for gedo and kismayo being happy ect ect) we are the most split ever.

 

[Dima&Damo]

They will probably target awdal and build one there

 

[Arkan]

They will probably target awdal and build one there

One of the Samaroon Federal MPs is vouching for Ethiopia too.

We would welcome it!

 

[GaradShabeel]

Samaroon MP of Ethiopia is vouching for Ethiopia too.

We will welcome it!

Would you personally be in favor of Awdal (hypothetically) joining Ethiopia if such a proposal was on the table?

Mida kale, he said it’s unfair that Ethiopian is landlocked Normally, I’d say qadr Allah since most countries didn’t drew their own borders, but Ethiopia fumbled away Eritrea, so they only have themselves to blame

 

[Arkan]

Would you personally be in favor of Awdal (hypothetically) joining Ethiopia if such a proposal was on the table?

Mida kale, he said it’s unfair that Ethiopian is landlocked Normally, I’d say qadr Allah since most countries didn’t drew their own borders, but Ethiopia fumbled away Eritrea, so they only have themselves to blame

Yes and No.

 

[Dima&Damo]

One of the Samaroon Federal MPs is vouching for Ethiopia too.

We would welcome it!

But what will SL say will ethiopia anexx all pf awdal

 

[Arkan]

But what will SL say will ethiopia anexx all pf awdal

You're acting like Somaliland is relevant in the grand scheme of things. Ethiopia already owns 30% of Berbera. Somaliland federal state cannot defy them when Ethiopia got it on lock.

 

[Avalanche]

Considering how much treason is committed every day in Somalia, I would not be shocked if someone sells their port for a few hundred dollars.

 

[Ismacilssc]

That used to be the case but is no longer the case and hasnt been for years now. Federalism has created con-federlism.

If Ethophia for example attacked SL to get the port most somalis in las anod/awdal would be happy ( which is wrong but look what SL is doing in that area, same with PL being attacked and Mogadishu being happy and not helping , same for gedo and kismayo being happy ect ect) we are the most split ever.

Nope neither will happen thier are international laws and sanctions that would destroy them if they attacked SL and pu.tland ain't no joke either Ethiopia is gonna be without a port saxiib just accept it