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Father of 16 children and husband of three wives. Quran teacher at day and taxi driver by night. Baidoa SWS.
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What is there to acknowledge? you are angry at yourself, I thought you were happy living in a corporate job aren't you. No kids No Nothing just Happy. No you have to shit on a happy family living in somalia you psyco
I'm doing great in life but I will have rage for selfish c*nts like this father that needlessly breed for no reason without any foresight, I use to wonder why Somalia was such a mess but the more I interact with Somalis it becomes obvious why that is.
What a backwards culture and country, most corrupt country in the world, polygamy practiced to the detriment of children, FGM at 90%+ and constant famines.
I honest to god think Somalia is one of the worst countries on this planet, I feel so bad for the children being born into that hellscape.
I honest to god think Somalia is one of the worst countries on this planet, I feel so bad for the children being born into that hellscape.
ok are you serious??
It's irresponsible and reckless to have that many kids while being in abject poverty. The fact that he needs to work two jobs proves he isn't capable of catering to his kids. Parenting requires you to be involved, responsible, supportive, and nurturing in order to foster a healthy upbringing. There is nothing Islamic about his actions, and Allah Almighty will hold him accountable if he fails to cater to his children.
The prophet (PBUH) was very connected with his children and showered them with kindness. Al Aqra Bin Habis said I have ten children, but I have never kissed any one of them. The prophet said, "He who does not show mercy (towards his children), no mercy will be shown to him."
A good and responsible father takes sufficient time with his children. He takes the time to understand their feelings and challenges. He guides them through every step of their path and provides good mentorship. Sadly, many Somali fathers lack basic parenting skills and are very irresponsible. The reason they have multiple kids is to show off and boost how big their clan is. They took their primitive nomadic customs and used Islam as a facade to justify their actions. Niin walaan ba tahay if you think what the guy is doing is good. I urge you to take parenting classes.
I think a special case need to be made for this man. He's a teacher which means he's actively engaging in the education of his children. It would be weird if he wasn't.
But I agree for most men they couldn't handle the load and therefore shouldn't be having that many children unless they have the money to off source their kids mentoring aka he's filthy rich.
Who tf is talking about fgm thats completely irrelevant in this situation you low iq nihilist FGM is a seperate problem, dont you dare try potraying me as a supporter
I’m sure he’s a great father. No point insulting his fatherhood without sufficient evidence. Let’s hold of on making comments like that, Ramadan is around the corner.
What’s obvious though is the poverty and getting married again whilst very poor isn’t acceptable. Even in Islam, men are told to stick to one wife if they can’t afford to do so, but Somali men like to be manipulative and use the idea of kids being a baraka despite there being clear caveats to polygamous unions.
You can’t subject your wife and kids to even more poverty because you want to be with other women. The pursuit of intimacy cannot be why the money that could be used for your kids to be able to afford books for school is now being used to fund another women’s wedding. That’s how dire the situation is with the mentality back home. That’s my biggest issue with many Somali men and other African men. This xoolo behavior is unique to madow men and Somali men have the audacity to claim they’re not madow when they’re mentally identical. Other non African men, even Arabs and Asians who have a culture of polygamy as well, won’t marry again if they’re poor. They’re intelligent enough to understand that polygamy is for more comfortable men. It isn’t a luxury open to all. They operate in their tax bracket. Polygamy is something men are allowed to do once they’re able to give their first set of family a stable life. Imagine, their first family are struggling with food and a having a decent home over their heads and clothing, yet instead of using any extra money they have to provide for their current kids with better education or a bigger house so that they can have more space and provide their poor struggling wife a better life, they’ll use that money to take from their current family and use it to be with another woman. If kids are baraka, why are they not using it to extra invest in their children? Why think about unborn children when your current children are struggling?
I know it might sound insane to link this to why our country is poverty-stricken and backwards, but I can’t help but feel many of our men don’t think about tomorrow, it’s always about filling their stomachs and fulfilling their lusts. There isn’t any form of discipline or reaching goals and milestones. This mindset also seeps into every aspect of our society.
What’s obvious though is the poverty and getting married again whilst very poor isn’t acceptable. Even in Islam, men are told to stick to one wife if they can’t afford to do so, but Somali men like to be manipulative and use the idea of kids being a baraka despite there being clear caveats to polygamous unions.
You can’t subject your wife and kids to even more poverty because you want to be with other women. The pursuit of intimacy cannot be why the money that could be used for your kids to be able to afford books for school is now being used to fund another women’s wedding. That’s how dire the situation is with the mentality back home. That’s my biggest issue with many Somali men and other African men. This xoolo behavior is unique to madow men and Somali men have the audacity to claim they’re not madow when they’re mentally identical. Other non African men, even Arabs and Asians who have a culture of polygamy as well, won’t marry again if they’re poor. They’re intelligent enough to understand that polygamy is for more comfortable men. It isn’t a luxury open to all. They operate in their tax bracket. Polygamy is something men are allowed to do once they’re able to give their first set of family a stable life. Imagine, their first family are struggling with food and a having a decent home over their heads and clothing, yet instead of using any extra money they have to provide for their current kids with better education or a bigger house so that they can have more space and provide their poor struggling wife a better life, they’ll use that money to take from their current family and use it to be with another woman. If kids are baraka, why are they not using it to extra invest in their children? Why think about unborn children when your current children are struggling?
I know it might sound insane to link this to why our country is poverty-stricken and backwards, but I can’t help but feel many of our men don’t think about tomorrow, it’s always about filling their stomachs and fulfilling their lusts. There isn’t any form of discipline or reaching goals and milestones. This mindset also seeps into every aspect of our society.
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Yet it bothers you when I tell you how unsafe Somalia is and in a country like that this type of behavior shouldn't be encouraged, you don't care about these kids but I do.
Exactly, I wouldn't hate someone if they practiced it correctly but somali men can't manage that. These old men don't make logical decisions as they let their desires dictate their lives which explains why the country is in the state it's currently in. I used to believe after the older somali generation died maybe some of those toxic customs would go with them but based on the comments in this thread that won't happen.
Short sighted, impulsive, don’t understand the meaning of making sacrifices for the greater good, and above all selfish and you see that attitude from the leadership of fathers to the leaderships of politicians. Families are the building blocks of communities and our communities are the building blocks of a nation. Even our politicians will eat the wealth of our nation instead of saving and re-distributing it and the first thing they’ll do is build a villa and marry a second wife.
I’ll probably get down-voted by some of the men here, but if you were truly and I mean truly honest with yourself and re-reflected you’d know what I’m talking about, as you’ll see it.
'Are the children starving' kulaha. Oh no, Allah forbid if we want more for miskeen children, beyond living on whatever meagre rations daddy asks them to share with 15 other siblings.
How dare we ask men to practice sexual discipline, financial discipline, let alone
*GASP*, ask men to have enough time to parent their own children!
Take a good look at this post, if you want to know why Somalia lags behind other nations, when it comes to certain things.
Somalia would be far wealthier and healthier, if broke men were prevented from practicing polygamy and chewing khat.
-The extra income they have could be spent on saving, buying land, properties.
-Their children would have assets to inherit should an accident befall their father.
-Their children would be sent to better schools, better healthcare providers and so forth.
- Happier and healthier wives- who could also study and work, and increase the inheritance for children.
All of this would result in Duah and respect from their offspring and Allah's mercy and blessings in this life and the next.
But this requires sexual discipline, accountability and wisdom.
Instead they prefer to force multiple wives and children to split meager income, and live in abject misery. And then they wonder why their sons join AlShaydaan to assassinate people for $100. Or why their sons are militia men for some corrupt politician/warlord.
It's all vomit-inducing.
@DR OSMAN
Once made an incredible observation, he said that Somali nomads should sell their camels before it's abaar time, and put the money in a bank, so that they could increase their financial health. But I fear, the truth is, they like walking around with many camels and not preparing for the dry seasons, so that they LOOK wealthy, instead of actually being wealthy.
Women, children, camels, are all used to boost their ego, and even if they are broke, they will try to get it; for faan purposes.
This Quranic Verse perfectly sums up the Somali DISEASE;
"It has been made attractive for people to love the desired things; that is, women, children, hoarded heaps of gold and silver, branded horses, cattle and tillage. That is an enjoyment of the worldly life; but with Allah lies the beauty of the final resort"
Once made an incredible observation, he said that Somali nomads should sell their camels before it's abaar time, and put the money in a bank, so that they could increase their financial health. But I fear, the truth is, they like walking around with many camels and not preparing for the dry seasons, so that they LOOK wealthy, instead of actually being wealthy.
Women, children, camels, are all used to boost their ego, and even if they are broke, they will try to get it; for faan purposes.
This Quranic Verse perfectly sums up the Somali DISEASE;
"It has been made attractive for people to love the desired things; that is, women, children, hoarded heaps of gold and silver, branded horses, cattle and tillage. That is an enjoyment of the worldly life; but with Allah lies the beauty of the final resort"
Multiple wives should be for the cream of the crop of society.
There should be a Sharia court system where a sheikh must judge you on your finances, emotional well-being, energy, and islam for you to even consider having a second or third wife.
We need to have stable families and competition. Polygamy should be a privilege for the chads of somali society, not a right for the average broke nigga.
There should be a Sharia court system where a sheikh must judge you on your finances, emotional well-being, energy, and islam for you to even consider having a second or third wife.
We need to have stable families and competition. Polygamy should be a privilege for the chads of somali society, not a right for the average broke nigga.
Egypt and Turkey have laws to curtail broke men from being polygamous. This will never fly in Somalia, until the day that Somali men with discipline and pride, takeover.
That won’t work for several reasons:
1. Our government and court systems are too corrupt due to the point I mentioned: Too short sighted and simply don’t understand or care enough about the future stability of society.
2. People are too uneducated.
3. Many women despite being in dire poverty won’t leave if their husband marries again because getting a tiny amount is better than getting nothing.
4. Girls are repeating the cycle of their parents since their fathers have too many mouths to feed due to polygamy, so they marry any old Farax that can provide a roof and food.
Only solution is via increasing the economy and increasing the financial and educational independence of women. This point will be seen as controversial by sexist men or the very conservative, but it’s a fact. It’s really down to women not to marry those types of men, but that can only happen if they can support themselves and are able to help their families, as it will stop them from marrying undesirable men due to extreme poverty.
Many of the men can qashin my post, but what’s facts is that one do then biggest contributors of poverty for African women and children is due to poor men being polygamous. There is hikma in Allah saying that only men that afford to get married again should do so.
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