Is anyone here agnostic/atheist or non-religious?

[seoulmates]

Meh kind of. I always try to become more religious but that connection just isn’t there. My faith really fluctuates. I’m very religious rn though.

But ex-Muslim spaces are so fucking annoying and filled with Jews and pajeets larping so I never want to be associated with y’all. Sorry.

Also you people cannot have a mature conversation at all. Whole thread is spam of arguing about religion. ANSWER IF YOU BELIEVE OR NOT AND STFU

 

[NordicSomali]

Which one is it?

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Physicists think the universe came from nothing which is the Big Bang theory. Either way, all their theories don’t involve God so you can explain things without involving God.

Also if you’re right, where did Allah come from?

 

[Omar del Sur]

Physicists think the universe came from nothing which is the Big Bang theory. Either way, all their theories don’t involve God so you can explain things without involving God.

so you were created by nothing- that is your position. you were created, designed and put together by nothing. yes and this phone I'm typing on- my phone is quite impressive as well. no one made this phone. a bunch of random materials fell on top of each other in the middle of the woods and randomly formed this smartphone

Also if you’re right, where did Allah come from?

Allah is all-powerful Rabb ul alameen- that being so, is it really a stretch to believe that He has existed eternally?

 

[MuslimManMe]

For anyone who sees the current assault on Muslims and Islam across the world, to see the resilience and strength of Muslims in the face of that assault, to see how every ideology and religion has caved in the face of this globalist yahuud led and masonic godless agenda, but yet to still deny Allah and the religion of Islam - is to be a fool of the highest order.

It is apparent to anyone that has a functioning heart and a functioning mind that this world has a Creator, whose wisdom was so intricate that he timed the existence of blades of grass with the rays of suns from 93 million miles away, that he synced the functioning of human beings with the various creatures and plants they share the earth with, some to provide them warmth, some protein and others to provide them with transportation.

It is clear that all of this proceeded from knowledge, and that non existence cannot be knowing. It is clear that it has purpose and something that is without existence cannot have purpose. It is clear that this function is interconnected across trillions of light years and trillions of existent sentient and non sentient creatures, thereby indicating a unity of the being that brought these things into existence. It is clear that this being must be timeless and without end, or else it would have been subject to that which the remainder of Contingent existence relies on - i.e. a first mover.

When someone then sees that after the advent of the Messenger (SAWS), everything that the Quran has said about human beings and their conditions has come to fruition. It warned us of the most hateful towards the Muslims being pagans and Jews, and that is occurring. It told us that those who believe in Isa (Christians) would be superior in number and strength, and that is occurring. It told us of the attempts by human beings to reach the Aqtar (horizons) of the heavens and that has happened. It told us about the corruptive effects of human beings on the earth and sea, and that is happening


This and many more. Furthermore, when one looks at Islam calling you towards that which is clean and beneficial for your soul, your body and your mind, and you compare it with the live effects of the systems that call towards the opposite of that, a functioning mind without bias would choose everything that Islam brings because of its maslaha to the human condition.

If in spite of all of that, a person chooses to spend the next 70 years of their life in existential dread and nihilism because of the gap in their heart from turning away from the clear truth, then it is their loss and lack of guidance.

Islam remains the truth. It will remain long after its dissidents are in their grave, benefiting the believers, bringing delight to their hearts and engaging the kuffar to the point where they spend trillions of dollars trying to defeat it.

"And Allah insists on the perfection of his light, no matter how much the disbelievers like it"

 

[NordicSomali]

so you were created by nothing- that is your position. you were created, designed and put together by nothing. yes and this phone I'm typing on- my phone is quite impressive as well. no one made this phone. a bunch of random materials fell on top of each other in the middle of the woods and randomly formed this smartphone



Allah is all-powerful Rabb ul alameen- that being so, is it really a stretch to believe that He has existed eternally?

A miracle would be if Homo sapiens came into existence within a few years but we didn’t, it took millions maybe billions of years for evolution with natural selection and the planet to form for humans to exist, I know you were taught this at school.

You still have to explain who created Allah? Do you just believe that he wasn’t created? Maybe he’s lying. The problem is you can’t confirm any of these statements.

 

[NordicSomali]

This guy was a very religious convert to Islam and then he left Islam. His YouTube channel carefully analyzes the Quran and hadiths and debunks them. His YouTube channel is a goldmine to all who are skeptical of the religion.

I just finally want to say that I respect Islam and Muslims, I don’t have anything against believing in whatever they want. I just don’t care.

 

[Qeelbax]

I suspect my brothers think the same as me, since we were all raised non religious, I was never taught how to pray, didnt open a quran once

Could I even call myself Muslim?

Never opened quran? And im supposes to believe you are somali with a religious dad

 

[Omar del Sur]

A miracle would be if Homo sapiens came into existence within a few years but we didn’t, it took millions maybe billions of years for evolution with natural selection and the planet to form for humans to exist, I know you were taught this at school.

well I want an elephant. how long do I have to wait until the materials in my room fall next to each other and form an elephant?

You still have to explain who created Allah?

No I don't! If the Rabb ul Alameen needed someone to create Him, that would need a lot more explaining than simply accepting that an All Powerful Rabb ul alameen has existed eternally.

 

[Qeelbax]

I've finished the Qur'an 3 times I've studied tafsiir and graduated I was very religious person throughout my childhood but after digging up and questioning my beliefs i just left Islam and all types of religions it's just a man-made Bulshit that doesn't exist

@seoulmates why you liking this?

 

[Omar del Sur]

I've seen him before and just looking at that guy's face is plenty refutation against him for me. did he leave Islam for crystal meth??

 

[Qeelbax]

I’m also agnostic I left Islam about a year ago I haven’t told anyone and people think I’m still Muslim I think it’s all ethnicities that are becoming less religious studies show 25% of Muslims who grow up in the USA end up leaving the religion

WTF IS WITH THIS THREAD. I took a break and y’all let r/exsomalian take over

 

[Qeelbax]

My biggest sympathy goes to the women. That practice was one of the worst things that can happen to the Somali community and any Muslim nations with women in it.

We don’t need or want your sympathy. You need all the sympathy you can get for joining reer cadaab.

 

[Qeelbax]

Is not misogynistic. If you’re a fan of Doja then you’re really not religious at all. Considering you’re listening to her music. Which contains sexual themes. But I’m not here to judge.

Just calling out ma’am.

People like you don’t know much about the deen, I feel bad for you, you got set up in this dunya.

 

[NordicSomali]

I've seen him before and just looking at that guy's face is plenty refutation against him for me. did he leave Islam for crystal meth??

Please be more serious Omar, I know you’re an intelligent person.

well I want an elephant. how long do I have to wait until the materials in my room fall next to each other and form an elephant?



No I don't! If the Rabb ul Alameen needed someone to create Him, that would need a lot more explaining than simply accepting that an All Powerful Rabb ul alameen has existed eternally.

In billions of years anything can happen. Do you deny evolution because it’s a proven scientific fact.

 

[marcellady]

I've seen him before and just looking at that guy's face is plenty refutation against him for me. did he leave Islam for crystal meth??

He left Islam for Christianity, and many Muslims have already addressed his false claims

 

[Omar del Sur]

He left Islam for Christianity, and many Muslims have already addressed his false claims

"seeking Allah finding Jehovah" kulaha.... I'm not even listening to this guy in the first place to refute him... I think this guy looks like he does drugs, I don't care what he has to say

 

[Keep it a boqol]

This guy was a very religious convert to Islam and then he left Islam. His YouTube channel carefully analyzes the Quran and hadiths and debunks them. His YouTube channel is a goldmine to all who are skeptical of the religion.

I just finally want to say that I respect Islam and Muslims, I don’t have anything against believing in whatever they want. I just don’t care.

bro you actually believe that he was muslim? LMAO this guy is a fake convert

 

[Kisame]

@Khanderson
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are all certified members of Reer Murtad.

 

[Kisame]

Meh kind of. I always try to become more religious but that connection just isn’t there. My faith really fluctuates. I’m very religious rn though.

But ex-Muslim spaces are so fucking annoying and filled with Jews and pajeets larping so I never want to be associated with y’all. Sorry.

Also you people cannot have a mature conversation at all. Whole thread is spam of arguing about religion. ANSWER IF YOU BELIEVE OR NOT AND STFU

"But ex-Muslim spaces are so fucking annoying and filled with Jews and pajeets larping so I never want to be associated with y’all. Sorry."

Unless your hanging out in a Somali gaal space most ex Muslim spaces are filled with Asians and Arabs.

 

[Internet Nomad]

It unified the south I'll give you that . Why can't Islam make Somaliland and Puntland want unity right now then

Islam did not destroy the country it was literally the abandonment of islam that destroyed us. Qabilism and the Socialist tyrant Siad Barre destroyed the nation.

To kill each other over Qabil is against islamic principles. If we had followed the deen we would've not fell into a civil war.

Jundab ibn Abdullah, RadhiAllahu Anhu, reported: The Messenger of Allah, SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam, said:

مَنْ قُتِلَ تَحْتَ رَايَةٍ عِمِّيَّةٍ يَدْعُو عَصَبِيَّةً أَوْ يَنْصُرُ عَصَبِيَّةً فَقِتْلَةٌ جَاهِلِيَّةٌ

Whoever is killed under the banner of blind following, who calls to tribalism or supports tribalism, then he has died upon ignorance.
[Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1850, Grade: Sahih]

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا كُونُوا قَوَّامِينَ بِالْقِسْطِ شُهَدَاءَ لِلَّهِ وَلَوْ عَلَىٰ أَنفُسِكُمْ أَوِ الْوَالِدَيْنِ وَالْأَقْرَبِينَ إِن يَكُنْ غَنِيًّا أَوْ فَقِيرًا فَاللَّهُ أَوْلَىٰ بِهِمَا فَلَا تَتَّبِعُوا الْهَوَىٰ أَن تَعْدِلُوا

O you who believe, be persistently standing firm in justice as witnesses for Allah, even if it be against yourselves or parents and relatives. Whether one is rich or poor, Allah is more worthy of both. Follow not your desires, lest you not be just.

(Surat al-Nisa 4:135)

Wathila ibn Al-Asqa’ reported: I said, “O Messenger of Allah, is it part of tribalism that a man loves his people?” The Prophet said:

لَا وَلَكِنْ مِنَ الْعَصَبِيَّةِ أَنْ يُعِينَ الرَّجُلُ قَوْمَهُ عَلَى الظُّلْمِ
No, rather it is tribalism that he supports his people in wrongdoing.
[Source: Sunan Ibn Mājah 3949, Grade: Hasan]

Jubair ibn Mut’im, RadhiAllahu Anhu, reported: The Messenger of Allah, SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam, said:

لَيْسَ مِنَّا مَنْ دَعَا إِلَى عَصَبِيَّةٍ وَلَيْسَ مِنَّا مَنْ قَاتَلَ عَلَى عَصَبِيَّةٍ وَلَيْسَ مِنَّا مَنْ مَاتَ عَلَى عَصَبِيَّةٍ
He is not one of us who calls to tribalism. He is not one of us who fights for the sake of tribalism. He is not one of us who dies following the way of tribalism.
[Source: Sunan Abī Dāwūd 5121, Grade: Hasan]

Abdullah ibn Mas’ud, RadhiAllahu Anhu, reported: The Messenger of Allah, SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam, said:

مَنْ أَعَانَ قَوْمَهُ عَلَى ظُلْمٍ فَهُوَ كَالْبَعِيرِ الْمُتَرَدِّي يَنْزِعُ بِذَنَبِهِ
Whoever supports his people in oppression is like a dead camel that falls into a well and is pulled out by its tail.
[Source: Musnad Aḥmad 4141, Grade: Sahih]

In another narration, the Prophet, SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam, said:

وَمَثَلُ الَّذِي يُعِينُ قَوْمَهُ عَلَى غَيْرِ الْحَقِّ كَمَثَلِ بَعِيرٍ رُدِّيَ فِي بِئْرٍ فَهُوَ يَنْزِعُ مِنْهَا بِذَنَبِهِ
The parable of the one who supports his people upon other than the truth is that of a dead camel which falls into a well and is pulled out by its tail.
[Source: Musnad Aḥmad 3670, Grade: Sahih]

Aisha, RadhiAllahu Anha, reported: The Messenger of Allah, SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam, said:

إِنَّ أَعْظَمَ النَّاسِ فِرْيَةً لَرَجُلٌ هَاجَى رَجُلًا فَهَجَا الْقَبِيلَةَ بِأَسْرِهَا
Verily, the greatest liar among people is a man who insults another man by disparaging the entire tribe.
[Source: Sunan Ibn Mājah 3761, Grade: Sahih]

In another narration, the Prophet, SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam, said:

إِنَّ أَعْظَمَ النَّاسِ جُرْمًا إِنْسَانٌ شَاعِرٌ يَهْجُو الْقَبِيلَةَ مِنْ أَسْرِهَا
Verily, the greatest criminal among people is a poet who disparages the entire tribe.
[Source: al-Adab al-Mufrad 870, Grade: Sahih]